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Re:GLP-1 for Everything by kadoban on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @04:30PM (#41989024)
Are diabetics biased in this way when they take insulin? Or where is your cutoff?

How many average person years does an intervention need to save before it meets your approval?

Re:GLP-1 for Everything by akira2501 on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @04:35PM (#41989074)
Untreated diabetics can die within a week. Are we facing the same sort of problem here?
Re:GLP-1 for Everything by kadoban on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @04:39PM (#41989122)
No, but same thing with different numbers.

Like I asked, where's our cutoff? If obesity on average kills you a couple of decades earlier than otherwise, does treatment for that meet your approval?

Re:GLP-1 for Everything by akira2501 on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @04:53PM (#41989284)
> No, but same thing

They're either the same or they're different.

> Like I asked, where's our cutoff?

Exigency of loss of life.

> kills you a couple of decades earlier

Staying obese into old age carries risks. There are multiple ways to manage that risk. None of it is as exigent as other conditions.

> does treatment for that meet your approval?

Universally? No.

Re:GLP-1 for Everything by kadoban on Tuesday October 29, 2024 @05:01PM (#41989362)
>> Like I asked, where's our cutoff?

> Exigency of loss of life.

Cool. How about cancer treatment? Some of those you can live with for some months/years. We allowed to treat anyway when the outcomes are better?

> Staying obese into old age carries risks. There are multiple ways to manage that risk. None of it is as exigent as other conditions.

And why should this not be one of the ways to manage that risk? The biggest difference seems to be that it actually works, on average, unlike some other common treatments like telling people to eat less and exercise more.