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Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by einhverfr on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @03:43AM (#4198162)
What failure? I don't know what you mean by failure here. If you mean "fails to be the rockstar of the tech industry" that isn't much of a failure.

Microsoft is only a failure if we expect them to build an ever more powerful monopoly with no possibility of escape. They may be trying to do that. Instead they have a large and solid business which is still very cash flow.

Tell me of Microsoft's failure when the profits of Google or Facebook surpass the profits of Google.

Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by gnaffle on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @06:13AM (#4198733)
Microsofts failure is most evident in their stock staying flat or dropping the last years, while all their competitors stock has soared, including Apples. That's the overall indicator of failure, and the one their owners care about.

But look underneath, and you find failure in every attempt Microsoft has made to branch out of their existing businesses, except for the Xbox.

Mobile? Lost to Apple and Google. Music? Lost to Apple. Instant messaging and identity (.net Passport)? Lost to Facebook. Tablets? Lost to Apple. There are countless examples like this.

Given all those failures, that nice cash flow will only be sustained until the Windows monopoly is replaced by something else. Windows 8 is Microsofts desperate response to something that threatens to do that.

Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by einhverfr on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @09:19AM (#4199288)
But my larger point is that if my business only grows to be the size of Microsoft and ends up with a steady profit that size I won't care about the failures, only count the successes at that point.
Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by gnaffle on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @10:35AM (#4199556)
Of course, but the question at that point becomes: How do you sustain those steady profits?

DEC was hugely successful in its day, but was a failure in the 90s because they couldn't manage the transition from minicomputers to PCs.

Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by einhverfr on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @10:55AM (#4199623)
By creating stuff that people find useful.

Also I am less convinced than others that Microsoft is flopping on everything. Azure is certainly a good start for example.

Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by nl on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @11:40AM (#4199774)
Azure is certainly a good start for example.

Seriously?

Azure is what - 4 years old? It's still yet to see significant adoption outside places that were already .NET/Windows shops.

Until that happens it's little more than another defensive play by Microsoft attempting to protect Windows revenue.

(Yes, I know it can run Linux VMs. Again - is anyone outside .NET shops using it?)

Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by ladzoppelin on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @06:40PM (#4201030)
Apple is using Azure for ICloud which is pretty huge. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/is-apple-really-using-wi... The Vanity Fair article is almost identical to the articles released before Windows 7 came out in 2009 predicting the same kind of stuff than never comes true. Windows 8 has the potential to be a huge so I am sure these cookie cutter "MS is doomed" articles are going to be more prevalent as we get closer to release.
Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by einhverfr on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @09:28PM (#4201384)
there have been folks on the PostgreSQL lists talking about their experience with Azure running Linux/PostgreSQL.
Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by locusm on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @10:17PM (#4201491)
Any links - we had huge perf issues...
Re:Microsoft’s Downfall: Inside the Cannibalistic Culture Th... by einhverfr on Wednesday July 04, 2012 @08:17AM (#4199067)
At their height they had plenty of failures too. Bob comes to mind....