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Re:Saturated fat: the making and unmaking of a scientific co... by claytongulick on Sunday October 27, 2024 @12:40PM (#41963826)
Tone matters.

I'm much more likely to listen to a person who has a calm, neutral or positive tone than someone who is screaming the same words at me.

Words are only a part of human communication, and arguably not the most important part.

"Can I help you?" Has a vastly different meaning depending on the tone and body language of the speaker.

Re:Saturated fat: the making and unmaking of a scientific co... by KempyKolibri on Sunday October 27, 2024 @01:21PM (#41964088)
That’s a different point.

I claimed that Teicholz was a joke because she makes misleading and often false claims about nutrition science evidence. The response was that the critique I linked to was more of a joke, not because of its content but because of its tone.

So sure, tone matters in certain contexts. If it matters more to someone than the content of what is being said to someone in the context of assessing scientific research, then I think that person has a wild way of interpreting evidence.

Re:Saturated fat: the making and unmaking of a scientific co... by Aurornis on Sunday October 27, 2024 @02:41PM (#41964634)
> Tone matters.

Very true. This fact has been deeply exploited by con men across social media in the past decade. When someone knows they’re coming from an unfounded, misleading, or deliberately wrong position they make up for it by heaping on friendly tone. They present in a warm, welcoming, and empathetic tone that appears inviting and friendly, unlike the cold academic discussions where facts reign supreme and tone is an afterthought.

It’s a real problem right now. There are countless influencers and podcasters pushing bad science who get a free pass because they are all smiles, super nice, and present themselves as helping you (while pitching you products and trying to get you to buy their book)