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Re:The Lion of St. Mark's Square in Venice Is Chinese by sbdhzjd on Thursday October 24, 2024 @10:22PM (#41941712)
Looting a collapsing empire just across the Mediterranean is easy.

Looting an empire halls way across the world is a tad harder.

Re:The Lion of St. Mark's Square in Venice Is Chinese by rsynnott on Friday October 25, 2024 @06:13AM (#41943834)
I think their theory is that the lion was brought to Constantinople by legitimate means, then looted _from_ there by Venice.
Re:The Lion of St. Mark's Square in Venice Is Chinese by ithkuil on Friday October 25, 2024 @04:06PM (#41949143)
It's a common misconception that the crusades were a crime of white christians versus non-white non-christians. In reality crusades were just as well a crime against other white christians as against non-white christians, white non-christians, non-white non-christians, an excuse would be found for any of these targets
Re:The Lion of St. Mark's Square in Venice Is Chinese by sbdhzjd on Friday October 25, 2024 @08:00PM (#41951268)
All true.

But they were also an anti-colonial struggle to liberate occupied native christians from the imperialist ambitions from the Arabian peninsula.

Re:The Lion of St. Mark's Square in Venice Is Chinese by ithkuil on Saturday October 26, 2024 @01:08PM (#41956082)
Oh yes that was surely a motivator for some but also an excuse for others.

The political landscape of that time was truly complicated and chaotic in a way that is hard to truly capture in the image we have of that time period brought through general education, mostly because of lack of time to explain it all properly