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Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by KacharKhan on Thursday October 24, 2024 @12:31PM (#41937098)
Limited commercial use 1 to 3 devs should also be freek as projects this small usually are just starting and aren't profitable yet. Beyond that, yes , it should be sustainable for the team to pay for commercial license.
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by newaccount74 on Thursday October 24, 2024 @01:09PM (#41937453)
No. If you have money to pay for developers, you also have money to pay for tools. Especially since software licenses are going to be a tiny fraction of what the developers cost.
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by KacharKhan on Thursday October 24, 2024 @07:52PM (#41940981)
What about 1 developer developing something for commercial use ?
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by innocenat on Friday October 25, 2024 @04:27AM (#41943359)
They also offer a personal license, which I would say should be affordable to any devs if they were getting money. Rider is $149/year for the first year, $119 for second, and $89/year for the third year onward.
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by KacharKhan on Friday October 25, 2024 @09:29AM (#41945075)
That calculation does not hold for developing countries. Rider's license fee is huge in countries with per capita GDP is a small fraction of USA's per capita GDP.
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by innocenat on Friday October 25, 2024 @11:48AM (#41946408)
I think it is a reasonable assumption that developers in developing countries earn much more than the per capita GDP.

(I say this as someone from a Newly Industrialized Country and I easily afford the all product pack)

Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by newaccount74 on Friday October 25, 2024 @11:18AM (#41946102)
We should probably look at developer salaries / hourly rates rather than GDP. Most of the people in developing countries don't need IDEs.

But yeah, if you work for low rates, then you have to work more hours to pay for your tools.

Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by YourOrdinaryCat on Friday October 25, 2024 @08:00PM (#41951263)
> Most of the people in developing countries don't need IDEs

Most people in general, I would say. I haven’t tried JetBrains editors in a while, and the “developing country” definition is very unclear in my opinion (and also part of why I roll my eyes at the “what about developing countries?” argument sometimes), but I do think the yearly price looks good for WebStorm at least, as someone living in Colombia.

For reference, at the time of writing, the standard Netflix plan costs 26,900 COP a month, which ends up being 322,800 COP yearly. Meanwhile, WebStorm’s first year comes at 298,541.10 COP post USD -> COP conversion - it isn’t an insignificant sum, but if it offers significant added value, I think it’s a fair price, certainly better than the Netflix pricing. The second year is reduced to 237,967.54 COP, and the third to 177,393.99 COP - that last one is even less than what you’d pay for the Netflix basic plan over a year (202,800 COP).

Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by askonomm on Friday October 25, 2024 @04:24AM (#41943340)
This is like hiring construction workers, but not having money to buy them a hammer and nails. This ridiculous notion that software developers need to use free tools and neither they or their employer can't pay for any is very odd to me.
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by KacharKhan on Friday October 25, 2024 @09:27AM (#41945055)
In developing countries , Rider's license fee is a non-trivial fraction of a developers pay.
Re:JetBrains Rider is now free for non-commercial use by askonomm on Monday October 28, 2024 @06:40AM (#41969686)
I'm not sure how much money do devs in developing countries make, but I have a all-products pack license from JetBrains, and I pay around 20 EUR per month, which is equivalent to like 2 starbucks coffees.