I mean, for me (as well as him, obviously) it is a matter of "how" rather than "what". It is understandable, that what for some government officials is political reasons, for Linux end up being legal reasons, so no matter how ugly it is, it is not surprising at all that it came down to banning somebody who works for a sanctioned organization. It also doesn't matter that it makes no sense whatsoever (after all, you don't have to show your documents applying to the Linux mailing list), since most adult people get the fact that there's no justice in life.

But it is one thing when it's "sorry man, nothing I can do" (as in his private conversations with senior maintenaners), and other thing entirely, when for all your good work you are being dealt with like that, no heads-up, no good-bye, instead you get these things Linus has said today. Like, seriously, it doesn't even matter if Linus hates Russians and truly personally thinks this is desirable to get rid of these maintainers, it is just a matter of human decency to not make it any more than it has to be against individual person that basically worked for you (for free). And even if you don't have any human decency, it still just would be smarter to play it more neutral. So, yeah, it was really even surprisingly ugly.

That’s sad, too. Sounds like you got caught up in this, nothing that’s your fault, as well. I’m sorry to hear it.

I agree the how should have been way better implemented. For the human enterprises that they are it certainly seems like insufficient consideration is often paid to that.

Better to have difficult conversations than pretend it will be okay and everyone will be fine. Sometimes people are just saving themselves by avoiding that. Unfortunately to the detriment of others!

This is indeed a sad story that made me weep for him, an unsuspecting Sergey putting all his heart in his work for a company supplying Russian war machine.

Should definitely fork the project calling it RUinux, to remind everyone what he and his country does to ruin its neighbours including Ukraine.

I know you must have really strong feelings about it and may have even personally suffered, that is terrible and sad too!

In war time a lot of companies supply the country. The war is obviously no fault of his. But the leap to persecution is actually a more war-like attitude that is where we lose some of our humanity and decency, so it’s better to skip it.

"Supply the country" is misrepresentation. He's not a baker. Microprocessors manufacrured by Baikal Electronics were used by military (however defective they were).

I don't think it's persecution what Linus did, it is a necessity

By leap to persecution I was referring to your comment about him. But I guess Linus' words count too.

Anyway, I feel sorry for you that you think that way. When abusing people based on their country becomes a necessity, we are not far from war.

You’re weirdly intent on painting antiwar actions as prowar. No argument; you just state it over and over. Peace is war, war is peace? Nah. You’re just propagandizing.

If you can’t see the connection, I guess that makes you at risk of being pro-war, yeah? Hehehe :)

We are not far from war because Russia invaded Europe. This developer works for a company supplying materiel to the Russian military.

Look beyond the common explanations. Russia is not an unreasonable or irrational actor. There’s context you’re missing, I think.

When you lay the blame all on one side you justify war.

Anyway, the bigger picture is that no human society is free of war, blood and death. This is not a group-unique problem. It is a whole of humanity problem.

Keeping that in mind, i.e. the geopolitical version of the hacker news rule remember the human, might actually pave the path to peace.

To resolve a genuine conflict you probably need each party to take 100% responsibility.

I'm happy to bite the bullet. I have taken sides and I want my side to win. People who give material support to the enemy should face consequences. I come to this conclusion because war is an inevitable "humanity problem", there will never be universal peace, and I'd rather Ukraine was free and Europe-aligned than unfree and Russia-aligned. Why? Because I'm European and that's better for me, my country, and the people I care about.

and it's still open source?

What an utterly false equivalence.

One guy loses his "volunteer" position, which in fact he was being paid to do by either the Russian government or the Russian military (via Baikal Electronics).

The other side has missiles and drones falling on their cities.

Losing the sense of balance and proportionality, with everyone being equal, is what takes you down the road to war...Not good.

The West was trying that. We were trading with Russia and so on.

Russia invaded, and again, and again, and again.

This is whataboutism.

Isreal maybe is not my cup of tea, but at least they have some justification for waging their war because they were attacked first. So Israel with all its faults is not in the same league with Russia.

Edit: typo

> The war is obviously no fault of his.

Citation needed.

Sure: see cite note [1]

[1]: common sense