IPv6 may already be irrelevant – but so is moving off IPv4

Re:IPv6 may already be irrelevant – but so is moving off IPv4 by TheCraiggers on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @08:54AM (#41924582)

I've yet to see a single ISP (I live in the US) that even allows customers to host services. If you look in the TOS for services like Comcast, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc, you'll see a part about hosting services being forbidden. And that's even for normal IP4 addresses that aren't behind CG-NAT. Now, they probably don't look too hard unless you give them reason (I hosted various things over a Comcast connection for a decade) but the rule is in there.

Perhaps it's different for a mom & pop ISP, but I don't see the big ones configuring anything that makes it easier to do what they already don't want you doing anyway. They see the inability to forward ports as a feature, not a bug.

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Re:IPv6 may already be irrelevant – but so is moving off IPv4 by vetinari on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @09:00AM (#41924638)

I'm not in US, but in EU. Here, T-Mobile or Orange do not have a problem with incoming traffic, and they know that people have security cameras, doorbells, or NAS devices in their homes that they want access from outside.

So even if you expose your Home Assistant web to the wide web, no ISP is going to have a problem with that and won't interpret it as hosting services. What they really want is that you don't run a bandwidth intensive services on a consumer connection, which is going to be overbooked somewhere in their infra, causing service degradation to other users.

And for example Orange does provide PCP for their CGNAT.

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