Re:Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
by diggan on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @08:02AM
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> Banks are fined for not having processes for detecting money laundering. Not money laundering, mind it, just having "inadequate" processes. If such a process flags someone, that someone is blocked and they should provide "sufficient documents",
Isn't that how most compliance regulation works? You can't force companies to have a perfect record of preventing something, no matter how you structure things, so instead of trying to do so, you setup something that will at least preventing it somewhat. And then you fine the companies who don't do anything to prevent the issue.
Re:Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
by yeputons on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @08:47AM
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I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think so. For example, there is no penalty for not having an accountant on payroll. But there are some for not keeping adequate records. I suspect it's irrelevant whether you have a full-time accountant so your records are always in order, or if you do nothing all year and hire someone for a big overhaul each December and also every time authorities need something.
Re:Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
by afr0ck on Thursday October 24, 2024 @02:32PM
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> "some Russian-sounding names are banned, but we still have to demonstrate there is a due process".
That's not true! There are still many Russian maintainers in the kernel, but they are not based in Russia. They only banned individuals, based in Russia, who are employed by sanctioned companies.
Re:Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
by yeputons on Thursday October 24, 2024 @02:49PM
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As a neighboring comment mentioned, at least one banned individual seems to be based in the US is employed by Amazon, as per their LinkedIn, including some old posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41933300
They just happened to still use their older .ru email in the MAINTAINERS file.
Re:Several Russian developers lose kernel maintainership status
by neoromantique on Saturday October 26, 2024 @09:12AM
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Then he should send that info and he will be reinstated :shrug:
I highly doubt anyone banned will even try to send "sufficient documentation". The wording is as vague and arbitrary as it gets, and the underlying tone sounds to me not like "we have such and such requirements", but like "some Russian-sounding names are banned, but we still have to demonstrate there is a due process".
Reminds me of banks. Banks are fined for not having processes for detecting money laundering. Not money laundering, mind it, just having "inadequate" processes. If such a process flags someone, that someone is blocked and they should provide "sufficient documents", but the bank is not allowed to tell them why or what, that would be "tipping off", which is illegal. And then it all comes down to bank's internal policies (that the bank is not allowed to disclose) or even a personal relationship with a branch manager.