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Re:AI Detectors Falsely Accuse Students of Cheating–With Big... by thesuitonym on Monday October 21, 2024 @11:01AM (#41904934)
> Students are not used to doing the necessary work to learn. They are used to doing the necessary work to pass.

This is because 100-200 level math courses are not about teaching anything, but about filtering out students who can't do the work. Once you get past that level students have already formed bad habits and so still only do what it takes to pass. I don't know how to fix it, I don't know if it CAN be fixed.

Re:AI Detectors Falsely Accuse Students of Cheating–With Big... by skhunted on Monday October 21, 2024 @11:11AM (#41905053)
This is because 100-200 level math courses are not about teaching anything, but about filtering out students who can't do the work.

This is 100% incorrect.

Re:AI Detectors Falsely Accuse Students of Cheating–With Big... by michaelt on Monday October 21, 2024 @12:44PM (#41905919)
Have you ever heard of "weed-out courses" ?

Admittedly, they are about teaching things. For example, teaching Laplace transforms to mechanical engineers. It certainly isn't true to say the "courses are not about teaching anything".

But if 20% of the class should decide to change majors to business? Well, there's been some filtering out of students too.