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Re:Why birds do not fall while sleeping by hackeraccount on Thursday October 17, 2024 @11:33AM (#41870608)
My favorite version of this argument is from Catch-22.

It starts with a discussion about the miseries people suffer and if they have any utility at all. Is pain a useful warning of problems or could that information be gotten across in a better way?

It ends with the two characters agreeing that neither believes in God, with one not believing in a good and kind God and the other not believing in an evil malevolent God.

https://risingentropy.com/catch-22/

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