Re:EV battery prices to fall by nearly 50 pct and near ICE p...
by potato3732842 on Thursday October 17, 2024 @09:58AM
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>There's plenty of fleet sources claiming vans are already winning on TCO in europe.
Can you cite one? All I'm finding is SEO/AI/low effort listicle type garbage.
>Which makes sense. Like city busses, EV vans in last mile city traffic are the low hanging fruit for EV adoption.
If it makes so much sense for so many users then why aren't we seeing more than the slightest trickle of the?
There's a reason I called the E-transit a joke. That's because it is. Low milage "go somewhere and stay there all day" type van buyers won't pay the initial price. The people moving users who generally buy the higher priced stuff new rack up too many miles in a day and they're gonna suffer some of the worst real world range because they have to heat and cool the cargo.
The only bigger work vehicle EVs are really starting to make sense for is city busses and local delivery (e.g. Amazon and similiar) that need low range, low flexibility (can't turn a van around and send it back out with a new driver at end of shift) and high up front cost. That's a tiny slice of users.
I really want this to work (especially for motor coaches for obvious NVH reasons) because EVs when they work they do an amazing job being pure appliance vehicles. But it just doesn't pencil out without using mental tricks or just writing off downsides that need to be planned around because "other people's money".
Can you cite one? All I'm finding is SEO/AI/low effort listicle type garbage.
>Which makes sense. Like city busses, EV vans in last mile city traffic are the low hanging fruit for EV adoption.
If it makes so much sense for so many users then why aren't we seeing more than the slightest trickle of the?
There's a reason I called the E-transit a joke. That's because it is. Low milage "go somewhere and stay there all day" type van buyers won't pay the initial price. The people moving users who generally buy the higher priced stuff new rack up too many miles in a day and they're gonna suffer some of the worst real world range because they have to heat and cool the cargo.
The only bigger work vehicle EVs are really starting to make sense for is city busses and local delivery (e.g. Amazon and similiar) that need low range, low flexibility (can't turn a van around and send it back out with a new driver at end of shift) and high up front cost. That's a tiny slice of users.
I really want this to work (especially for motor coaches for obvious NVH reasons) because EVs when they work they do an amazing job being pure appliance vehicles. But it just doesn't pencil out without using mental tricks or just writing off downsides that need to be planned around because "other people's money".