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Re:FIDO Alliance publishes new spec to let users move Passke... by chrchr on Thursday October 17, 2024 @02:33AM (#41866973)
A key difference between a passkey and a password is that a passkey is never transmitted off of your device. The existing tech that they most resemble is ssh keys.
Re:FIDO Alliance publishes new spec to let users move Passke... by zigzag312 on Thursday October 17, 2024 @04:26AM (#41867537)
How does Google Password Manager sync your passkeys then?

EDIT: Private key is not transmitted off of your device when authenticating, but it can be transmitted off of your device by your password manager.

"The difference between passkeys and passwords is that passkeys are cryptographic key pairs. The key pair is specific to a website. One half is shared with the website, and the other half is private and stored on your device or in your password manager." [0]

"Passkeys are securely backed up and synced between your Android devices" [0]

"Passkeys are stored in your Google Account..." [0]

"Your iCloud Keychain stores and syncs them [passkeys] between iOS, iPadOS, and macOS devices." [0]

[0] https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/13168025

Re:FIDO Alliance publishes new spec to let users move Passke... by e40 on Thursday October 17, 2024 @09:07AM (#41869313)
And the interaction between the thing that generates the passkey and my password manager is very confusing. I got multiple popups and it wasn’t completely clear which was chrome ans 1password.
Re:FIDO Alliance publishes new spec to let users move Passke... by chrchr on Thursday October 17, 2024 @11:41AM (#41870704)
> Private key is not transmitted off of your device when authenticating.

Thank you. I should have been more specific. Non-transerral during auth is important because it virtually eliminates fishing, and that also explains why the Powers That Be are touchy about exporting. Exfiltration enables scenarios where a nefarious party tricks a user into transferring their cryptographic keys.

Re:FIDO Alliance publishes new spec to let users move Passke... by kbolino on Thursday October 17, 2024 @12:15PM (#41871031)
Strictly speaking, passwords do not have to be shared during auth, either. There are password-agreement schemes (e.g. SRP [1] as used in TLS-SRP) which allow both parties to prove they know the password without sharing it. However, these schemes never gained broad adoption.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Remote_Password_protoco...

Re:FIDO Alliance publishes new spec to let users move Passke... by Fire-Dragon-DoL on Saturday October 19, 2024 @01:20AM (#41885812)
I see that makes more sense. It is an upgrade to passwords, but in an ideal world we solve the other half (two factor) too.