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Re:Living outside America by seanmcdirmid on Sunday July 01, 2012 @08:01PM (#4186576)
I've been an out American for 7 years now, first two in Switzerland, the last 5 in China. I still think America has a lot going for it. Switzerland is efficient and fair, but something is missing because of restrained competition and protectionism. China is the exact opposite, and its hard to believe the system works at all. For whatever troubles America has, our system still works and is rather effective; no one is really coddled and you have to work hard, but social mobility is still better in the US than anywhere else.

There are people ignorant about the world in any country, I'm not sure why we always single out home bound Americans for being apathetic to world events. There is plenty of that to go around, even in Europe where people tend to travel more to other countries, but especially in China and even in Japan where people have many misconceptions about the rest of the world.

There are no more superpowers, not when IEDs are easy enough to procure by anyone.

Re:Living outside America by jandrewrogers on Sunday July 01, 2012 @09:39PM (#4186844)
Most Americans believe in the provincial caricatures of the other cultural regions of the US with which they have no experience. It is not just other countries, Americans are like that in their own country. And in fairness, the US is a large, populous country with diverse regional histories. Most Americans would probably be very surprised to learn that the "sagebrush culture" (red) states are the least religious or that the western mountain states are the second most urban outside the NYC area.

There is a considerable amount of cultural distance between, say, one of the Cascadia cities (like Seattle), and Mississippi, and Boston, more so than you often find between different European countries. What deceives people is that Americans nominally all speak the same language despite the stark cultural and historical differences between regions.

Re:Living outside America by seanmcdirmid on Sunday July 01, 2012 @10:20PM (#4186956)
Or how Idaho is an algmation of LDS teetotalers, survivalist libertarians, and extremely liberal hippies! But even the different between Seattle and Spokane (Washington's first and second largest urban areas) is pretty extreme.

My dad worked in nuclear, so I moved around a lot when I was a kid: Tricities Washington (sagebrush country), Toledo Ohio, Somewhere (Pennsville) New Jersey on the tristate border, Vicksburg Mississippi, and finally back to the PNW (Seattle). Actually, many Americans are fairly mobile, much more so than their European counterparts. Its not unusual to meet others like me who moved around a lot as kids (and are still moving, just not in the states anymore).

General American ignorance is quite a myth, though I'm sure their are many stationary Americans, there are just as many Americans who've lived everywhere.

Re:Living outside America by RivieraKid on Sunday July 01, 2012 @08:51PM (#4186700)
Social mobility is actually very low in the US in comparison with other developed countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility#Country_compari...
Re:Living outside America by seanmcdirmid on Sunday July 01, 2012 @10:24PM (#4186969)
I'm mixed about this.

People are fairly comfortable in most developed countries, they are in some way too stable: oppurtunities are provided, for sure, but the urge for mobility is not as strong as in the states. The states is very different, however: oppurtunities are not as numerous (economically segrated educational system), but the drive is much stronger to take them when presented because it sucks at the bottom.

Re:Living outside America by waterlesscloud on Monday July 02, 2012 @02:20AM (#4187604)
"There are no more superpowers, not when IEDs are easy enough to procure by anyone."

I think this is a myth, and potentially a very dangerous one.

Asymmetric warfare only works when the side with greater symmetric power holds back due to other (political) concerns. If the US used full power in a total-war unrestrained sense, IEDs would be wholly irrelevant to the outcome. That's true even in a war using"just" unrestrained conventional weapons.

The lessons from Viet Nam, Iraq, Somalia, etc. are valuable for both sides in situations where there is no political will for unrestrained power, but don't make the mistake of believing that unrestrained power is forever off the table.

To me, at least, it seems like making that mistake in thought, on either side, virtually guarantees that it will some day come right back on the table, and with a vengeance.

Re:Living outside America by berntb on Monday July 02, 2012 @03:54AM (#4187824)
See e.g. the second Chechnya war for a non-US example without much media coverage. The Russian army seems to have used artillery against cities, Syria/Hezbollah style.