What I Learned from Making the Python Back End for My New Webapp

Re:What I Learned from Making the Python Back End for My New... by seabrookmx on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @07:53PM (#41865084)

DRF's serializers make it really easy to generate N+1 queries and it's a very opinionated framework that doesn't share many opinions with other frameworks. There is also no plan to bring async support to DRF, even though it's already present in Django itself.

If you want to make a Django API these days I'd lean towards django-ninja which essentially bolts Pydantic onto Django, in a similar fashion to how FastAPI leverages Pydantic ontop of an async flask-like framework.

I personally would just use FastAPI but I understand lots of folks have invested heavily in (or prefer) Django's ORM to raw SQL or Alchemy.

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Re:What I Learned from Making the Python Back End for My New... by bb88 on Friday October 18, 2024 @02:42PM (#41882265)

There's a lot to like about the Django ORM. And Django still has it's place.

What I'd like is a SQL that creates and consumes a JSON structure as output/input, and then there wouldn't really be a need to serialize/deserialize anything. Python would be a lightweight wrapper for authentication, error handling, logging, and data processing that couldn't be easily done with SQL.

I mean people are trying this, but SQL feels so arcane. If you have tabular data and working with spreadsheets, SQL is great. And the JSON support in postgres is a badly bolted on design choice to force tree style data into tabular data.

Instead they should modify SQL to process tree style data as tree style data.

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Re:What I Learned from Making the Python Back End for My New... by eigenvalue on Friday October 18, 2024 @04:22PM (#41883113)

There is a JSON column type in SQLite now, and it's supported by SQLModel/SQLalchemy:

https://www.sqlite.org/json1.html

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Re:What I Learned from Making the Python Back End for My New... by bb88 on Friday October 18, 2024 @11:49PM (#41885513)

There's a JSONB column type in postgres for a while now too with the arrow syntax.

I think my point is that the structure of the data in a relational database is tree-like. Yet we can only get tabular data out of the queries.

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