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Re:Large language models reduce public knowledge sharing on ... by Aurornis on Sunday October 13, 2024 @12:35PM (#41829369)
Many of the forums I enjoyed in the past have become heavily burdened by rules, processes, and expectations. They are frequented by people who spend hours every day reading everything and calling out any misstep.

Some of them are so overburdened that navigating all of the rules and expectations becomes a skill in itself. A single innocent misstep turns simple questions into lectures about how you’ve violated the rules.

One Slack I joined has created a Slackbot to enforce these rules. It became a game in itself for people to add new rules to the bot. Now it triggers on a large dictionary of problematic words such as “blind” (potentially offensive to people with vision impairments. Don’t bother discussing poker.). It gives a stern warning if anyone accidentally says “crazy” (offensive to those with mental health problems) or “you guys” (how dare you be so sexist).

They even created a rule that you have to make sure someone wants advice about a situation before offering it, because a group of people decided it was too presumptuous and potentially sexist (I don’t know how) for people to give advice when the other person may have only wanted to vent. This creates the weirdest situations where someone posts a question in channels named “Help and advice” and then lurkers wait to jump on anyone who offers advice if the question wasn’t explicitly phrased in a way that unequivocally requested advice.

It’s all so very tiresome to navigate. Some people appear to thrive in this environment where there are rules for everything. People who memorize and enforce all of the rules on others get to operate a tiny little power trip while opening an opportunity to lecture internet strangers all day.

It’s honestly refreshing to go from that to asking an LLM that you know isn’t going to turn your question into a lecture on social issues because you used a secretly problematic word or broke rule #73 on the ever growing list of community rules.

Re:Large language models reduce public knowledge sharing on ... by abraae on Sunday October 13, 2024 @01:29PM (#41829813)
> Some people appear to thrive in this environment where there are rules for everything. People who memorize and enforce all of the rules on others get to operate a tiny little power trip while opening an opportunity to lecture internet strangers all day.

Toddlers go through this sometimes around ages 2 or 3. They discover the "rules" for the first time and delight in brandishing them.

Re:Large language models reduce public knowledge sharing on ... by Ferret7446 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @01:57PM (#41830048)
The reason those rules are created is because at some point something happened that necessitated that rule. (Not always of course, there are dictatorial mods.)

The fundamental problem is that communities/forums (in the general sense, e.g., market squares) don't scale, period. Because moderation and (transmission and error correction of) social mores don't scale.

Re:Large language models reduce public knowledge sharing on ... by Aurornis on Sunday October 13, 2024 @02:01PM (#41830083)
> The reason those rules are created is because at some point something happened that necessitated that rule. (Not always of course, there are dictatorial mods.)

Maybe initially, but in the community I’m talking about rules are introduced to prevent situations that might offend someone. For example, the rule warning against using the word “blind” was introduced by someone who thought it was a good thing to do in case a person with vision issues maybe got offended by it at some point in the future.

It’s a small group of people introducing the rules. Introducing a new rule brings a lot of celebration for the person’s thoughtfulness and earns a lot of praise and thanks for making the community safer. It’s turned into a meta-game in itself, much like how I feel when I navigate Stack Overflow

Re:Large language models reduce public knowledge sharing on ... by BlueTemplar on Monday October 14, 2024 @01:46PM (#41839912)
Just go to a different community for the same topic ?

Sounds like that one is on its way out anyway...

Re:Large language models reduce public knowledge sharing on ... by zahlman on Monday October 14, 2024 @02:13PM (#41840237)
Stack Overflow's policies exist for clearly documented reasons that are directly motivated by a clearly documented purpose (which happens not to be aligned with what most new users want the site to be, but they aren't the ones who should get to decide what the site is). They are certainly not politically motivated or created for the sake of a power trip. They came out of years of discussion on the meta site, and have changed over time due to the community realizing that previous iterations missed the mark.