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Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by kolinko on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @02:59AM (#41785238)
Gmail was revolutionary at the start, but stopped innovating 10 years ago - why don’t we still have a good search engine within it?

MapReduce would be invented anyway (I implemented it from scratch before learning of it’s existence).

Chrome is just a slightly upgraded Firefox (and novadays Safari is just as good if not better with ai)

PageRank was what gave Google monopoly, it’s not a result of monopoly.

Go - I can give you that. ProtoBuf - not my field, but isn’t it just a format that someone else would develop to fill a niche? (unlike say mp3 that had new compression algorithms baked in)

Maps - I can give you that. Some people might argue that it was an acquisition, but without Google’s muscle, Street View would not be feasible.

Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by nine_k on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @04:08AM (#41785598)
> Chrome is just a slightly upgraded Firefox

Wat. It's like saying that an apple is a slightly upgraded orange. I would understand if you mentioned KHTML and Safari as relatives, but "slightly upgraded" does not fit anyway.

> PageRank was what gave Google monopoly

I don't think so. PageRank has been successfully implemented elsewhere, and outmatched. What helped Google build a monopoly was the first mover advantage, the network effects, and the incessant streams of money from AdWords (invented by Google), DoubleClick (acquired) and a bunch of other advertisement tools.

> Maps - I can give you that.

Don't :) Google Maps is an acquisition from 20 years ago. (As is Android, AdSense, and many other core flagship products of the Google brand.)

If you want a relatively recent, successful Google service for general public, it's Google Photos.

Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by whitehexagon on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @02:02PM (#41790854)
>If you want a relatively recent, successful Google service for general public, it's Google Photos.

I seem to recall that followed the acquisition of Picasa.

Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by nine_k on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @02:30PM (#41791114)
Picasa was rather different: it had a desktop client, had tags, did not have a dedicated view mode, etc. It ran as a separate product, and then was shut down, not integrated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa

Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by kernal on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @05:55PM (#41793116)
>Google Maps is an acquisition from 20 years ago. (As is Android)

This is comical. When Google acquired Android, it was nothing more than a 3000 line JavaScript demo. The Android OS was created entirely at Google.

Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by shiroiushi on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @11:04PM (#41795064)
It's the same for Google Maps. It was just a C++ demo when acquired, nothing at all like what we see today.
Re:US weighs Google break-up in landmark antitrust case by omoikane on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @04:36PM (#41792353)
> Gmail was revolutionary at the start, but stopped innovating 10 years ago - why don't we still have a good search engine within it?

Not sure about your experience, but I used to subscribe to a lot of mailing lists just so that I can search for mailing list content using gmail, because the search function implemented by those mailing lists were generally worse.