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Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by drpossum on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:07AM (#41775552)
I don't know if this is a travesty that they awarded the prize to work on non-physical systems to jump on a bandwagon or that there was nothing else obvious enough to the board in actual physics to give this to.

If I was the awardee I'd consider declining just out of respect to the field.

Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by jgrahamc on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:09AM (#41775575)
The linked document connects their work to physics as follows:

"The Hopfeld network utilises physics that describes a material’s characteristics due to its atomic spin – a property that makes each atom a tiny magnet. The network as a whole is described in a manner equivalent to the energy in the spin system found in physics, and is trained by fnding values for the connections between the nodes so that the saved images have low energy"

"Hinton used tools from statistical physics, the science of systems built from many similar components."

Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by drpossum on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:13AM (#41775615)
Then it should be awarded for the result.

Given the line of reasoning this has now opened up Alan Turing should be awarded one posthumously in every field.

Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by eigenket on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:28AM (#41775743)
He unironically should
Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by volkadav on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:46AM (#41775870)
100% agreed as I can't think of any one individual since(1) who has done as much for all of science and engineering as he ultimately did; alas, they are not awarded posthumously.

(1) Newton would be a strong contender on a "for all time" basis, but even he would've probably needed to share it with Leibniz, which would have driven him absolutely ~b o n k e r s~, like wet hornet in a hot outhouse mad, LOL.

Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by eigenket on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @01:19PM (#41779577)
von Neumann probably
Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by mr_toad on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @09:04PM (#41783448)
> probably needed to share it with Leibniz

For Physics?

Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by jampekka on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:21AM (#41775692)
Neither of these models were never really influential though beyond some theoretical niches.
Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by drpossum on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:46AM (#41775876)
Yup. This prize is indistinguishable from "we saw AI in all the headlines, let's see what's the most plausible reasons we could hand it out for that"
Re:John Hopfield and Geoff Hinton Win Physics Nobel Prize [pdf] by wslh on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:09AM (#41776027)
It seems like a hallucination generated from a ChatGPT prompt...