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Re:Jazz – Apps with Distributed State by pshc on Monday October 07, 2024 @04:46PM (#41770858)
> Jazz Mesh is currently free — and it's set up as the default sync & storage peer in Jazz

How difficult is it to run my own backend?

Edit:

> Completely DIY Mesh.

> Build your own network of sync and storage nodes. Handle networking, security and backups yourself.

> Costs:

> N × instance cost for your sync nodes.

> Very high self-hosted egress costs.

> High self-hosted storage costs.

Compared to Mesh Pro at $79 for 30,000 sync-minutes (“Sync-minutes are counted on a per-connected-device, per-minute basis.”) per month… I bet the cost of self-hosted storage and egress is very low, actually, of course assuming you have the competence and time to DIY it.

Re:Jazz – Apps with Distributed State by theanzelm on Monday October 07, 2024 @04:51PM (#41770918)
npx jazz-run sync

Either locally or on your server.

And then point the app to that!

Edit: re pricing

Super preliminary, curious to hear everyone’s thoughts

Re:Jazz – Apps with Distributed State by earthnail on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @05:28AM (#41775336)
Storage seems reasonable, maybe even a bit too cheap, but the sync minutes look way too expensive. One problem is with end-user monetization: users are used to pay for storage, but not for how much time they can use your app.

For a small storage-heavy indie app I have, I'd pay $79 for base price, $45 for additional storage, and $1500 for sync minutes.

Re:Jazz – Apps with Distributed State by theanzelm on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @05:52AM (#41775465)
Thanks, this is very helpful. If it's unfeasible for a small indie app then that's a bug in the pricing.

If you have time, I'd love to hear about your app and work out alternatives (not just for you, but for everyone)

[email protected] anselm_io on Twitter

Or book a chat directly: https://cal.com/anselm-io/talk-about-jazz

(everyone else who has opinions on pricing is welcome to do the same)

Re:Jazz – Apps with Distributed State by pkrulz101 on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:36AM (#41776199)
Random one, but how do you find using Cal - Im keen to try it out?? I saw it on Onestack.cloud hosted for A$10 per 10 users per month which is pretty decent - our startup has a few founders and are pre-revenue, so means we couldn't really afford per user per month.
Re:Jazz – Apps with Distributed State by theanzelm on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:38AM (#41776217)
It's great! The first really good commercial open source SaaS app in my opinion and a big inspiration