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Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by SoftTalker on Sunday October 06, 2024 @07:17PM (#41761202)
For many decades, having a radio in a car at all was an optional extra. Probably in the 1970s or so it became pretty standard. I see no issue with an automaker deciding to omit AM radios if they think customers prefer that. The market will decide. There's no reason to mandate a radio of any kind in a car.
Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by GuardianCaveman on Sunday October 06, 2024 @07:35PM (#41761306)
This is from a linked article. The market doesn't come into play when it's safety infrastructure. You think if you make paying for fire and police optional everyone will pay for it? what are the consequences of not putting out the fire in one house when the neighbors do pay and the fire spreads. The market is moot when it comes to safety issues.

"AM radio plays a critical role in our public safety infrastructure. As seven former heads of FEMA have explained, AM’s resiliency combined with the long distances AM signals propagate means ‘the success of the National Public Warning System hinges on the use of AM radio.’ I agree. Americans know in times of emergency that they can turn to AM radio. I applaud Congress for its bipartisan action to ensure the continued reception of AM signals in all vehicles.”

Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by jalk on Sunday October 06, 2024 @08:12PM (#41761528)
So shouldn't it be mandated in peoples homes as well?
Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by schiffern on Monday October 07, 2024 @05:16AM (#41764149)
In emergencies people often evacuate by car, and lacking any access to emergency announcements can result in traffic jams mis-navigation, which ties up rescue personnel.

If you choose to die at home fine, but public roads are life-critical infrastructure. Guaranteeing everyone in the ensuing 'thundering herd' at least access to a basic AM/FM radio isn't too great a cost burden.

"Why do I need this radio, I don't use it" is a lot like saying, "why do I need this seatbelt, I never crash!"

Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by klodolph on Sunday October 06, 2024 @07:18PM (#41761210)
The public interest reason for mandating radios is so that drivers can receive emergency broadcasts.
Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by SoftTalker on Sunday October 06, 2024 @07:22PM (#41761227)
Are we going to remove the power switch also to force people to have their radios on at all times in case there is an emergency broadcast?
Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by omjnteontoh on Sunday October 06, 2024 @09:53PM (#41762045)
are annoying autistic people like you going to stop making retarded posts on HN (answer to both questions: no)
Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by klodolph on Sunday October 06, 2024 @10:04PM (#41762105)
In an emergency, when you have a million people evacuating a city, you can put up signs that say e.g. “tune to AM 850 for emergency broadcasts”.

To be honest I thought this part was kind of obvious and I don’t know why you made such a sarcastic comment about power buttons. Realistically speaking, every car on the market has a sound system anyway. You just need an antenna and AM radio, plus the user interface. It is not a major expense relative to the price of the car.

Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by vel0city on Sunday October 06, 2024 @10:10PM (#41762144)
In an emergency, when you have a million people evacuating a city, you can put up signs that say e.g. "tune to FM 90.1 for emergency broadcasts".

We're in cities, not the middle of nowhere in this scenario. The idea that we need an AM station to cover a few hundred square miles doesn't really apply here.

> You just need an antenna and AM radio, plus the user interface

And ensure all the shielding is good enough so your AM radio is actually useful, and designing all that shielding, and potentially having to change the placement of antennas on the car, etc.

Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by klodolph on Sunday October 06, 2024 @10:36PM (#41762292)
The majority of emergency radio station in the US happen to be AM stations. This is a fact.

Sure, you could phase out AM and do all your emergency broadcasts on FM. We haven’t done that. Do that first.

Here is more info about EAS: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Alert_System

There are 77 PEPs, which are commercial radio stations that double as emergency broadcast, as primary interfaces to FEMA. They are a mixture of AM and FM. You want to get rid of the AM requirement? Fine. Just switch all the broadcasts to FM first.

Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by vel0city on Sunday October 06, 2024 @10:51PM (#41762353)
Sure, lets do that. FM is where most of the listeners are anyways. We can start with every AM EAS station which also transmits on FM also get their FM stations up to standards and grants to make that happen. Sounds good to me.

In the end though it still kind of sucks. We're expecting people to know about AM radio and then also bother to look around to find the right station. While stations will automatically trigger on an alert, its not like your radio is designed to listen and find these alerts and automatically alert you.

Even better with requirements for car radios, how about we require WX radio and have it set up to by default alert drivers when an alert goes through? So many cars these days are now a part of the cell networks as well, how about we require emergency alerts broadcast over cell networks?

Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by cma on Sunday October 06, 2024 @07:18PM (#41761207)
There are road outrage/park status things still broadcast on AM
Re:Congress fights to keep AM radio in cars by CatWChainsaw on Monday October 07, 2024 @03:41PM (#41770112)
Microsoft's market "decided" that I wanted to log in to a computer with a Microsoft account, not me. The car manufacturer market "decided" that everyone wanted their every trip tracked, not me. The phone duopoly market "decided" that I didn't want a headphone jack, not me.