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Re:When Data Is Missing, Scientists Guess. Then Guess Again by fleischhauf on Sunday October 06, 2024 @06:59AM (#41756271)
you are right you still need the number of clusters
Re:When Data Is Missing, Scientists Guess. Then Guess Again by BrokrnAlgorithm on Sunday October 06, 2024 @09:40AM (#41757105)
I've been out of the loop for stats for a while, but is there a viable approach for estimating ex ante the number of clusters when creating a GMM? I can think if constructing ex post metrics, i.e using a grid and goodness of fit measurements, but these feel more like brute forcing it
Re:When Data Is Missing, Scientists Guess. Then Guess Again by CrazyStat on Sunday October 06, 2024 @12:09PM (#41758083)
There are Bayesian nonparametric methods that do this by putting a dirichlet process prior on the parameters of the mixture components. Both the prior specification and the computation (MCMC) are tricky, though.
Re:When Data Is Missing, Scientists Guess. Then Guess Again by lukego on Sunday October 06, 2024 @11:29AM (#41757801)
Is the question fundamentally: what's the relative likelihood of each number or clusters?

If so then estimating the marginal likelihood of each one and comparing them seems pretty reasonable?

(I mean in the sense of Jaynes chapter 20.)

Re:When Data Is Missing, Scientists Guess. Then Guess Again by disgruntledphd2 on Sunday October 06, 2024 @11:05AM (#41757630)
Unsupervised learning is hard, and the pick K problem is probably the hardest part.

For PCA or factor analysis, there's lots of ways but without some way of determining ground truth it's difficult to know if you've done a good job.