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Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by aithrowawaycomm on Saturday October 05, 2024 @04:46PM (#41752762)
This seems to be yet another reckless and dishonest scam from yet another cohort of AI con artists. From starmoon.app:

> With a platform that supports real-time conversations safe for all ages...Our AI platform can analyse human-speech and emotion, and respond with empathy, offering supportive conversations and personalized learning assistance.

These claims are certainly false. It is not acceptable for AI hucksters to lie about their product in order to make a quick buck, regardless of how many nice words they say about emotional growth.

Do you have a single psychologist on your staff that signed off on any of this? Telling lies about commercial products will get you in trouble with regulators, and it truly seems like you deserve to get in trouble.

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by arendtio on Saturday October 05, 2024 @05:33PM (#41753100)
Can you please elaborate on why this is 'certainly false'? What is missing?

To me, it looks like you have some experience with the topic and believe that it is very hard to build something like the device in question, but which properties of the solution make you so certain?

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by aithrowawaycomm on Saturday October 05, 2024 @05:49PM (#41753205)
The primary thing that's missing is any evidence that the claim is true, or even plausible. There's no indication that they even tested this with kids.

I don't take advertising at face value, even if that advertising might appeal to sci-fi sensibilities. Your question has an air of "well you can't PROVE the flying spaghetti monster is false."

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by arendtio on Sunday October 06, 2024 @12:27AM (#41754744)
I think the plausibility is granted by the usage of the emotion intelligence model[1].

However, I agree with you that this is very thin ice. Given the selection of books used as decoration in the video, the authors seem to have more of a business background [2] than one of psychology.

I don't like calling someone a liar when no evidence is present (either way). I would rather say: 'Bold claims, can you prove it?'

[1]: https://github.com/StarmoonAI/Starmoon/blob/main/.env.exampl...

[2]: https://youtu.be/59rwFuCMviE?t=69

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by akadeb on Sunday October 06, 2024 @06:49PM (#41761019)
Those books made good props for the demo but I should add that we aren't exactly experts in it either. I have a background in computer engineering and math at UIUC and my cofounder has a background in data science and machine learning from city university in london and architectural computation at UCL.

Ours are indeed bold claims and we have updated some copies on the website to update our core value prop

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by akadeb on Saturday October 05, 2024 @05:57PM (#41753247)
hey there I am one of the founders. this is our project which we are trying to grow through open-source. I agree our wording can be better so its backed by data and not just a marketing stint.

> Do you have a single psychologist on your staff that signed off on any of this?

We've been talking to pediatricians at portland hospital and cromwell hospital in london to support the "safe for all ages" claim but I agree that we want to back all our claims with data

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by edent on Saturday October 05, 2024 @07:10PM (#41753562)
Note to readers. The Cromwell Hospital is a private company. It is not part of the NHS.
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by zq2240 on Saturday October 05, 2024 @10:20PM (#41754260)
I would argue that most hospitals in the US are private.
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by meiraleal on Saturday October 05, 2024 @06:41PM (#41753440)
These claims are certainly not false. They described ChatGPT.

> It is not acceptable for AI hucksters to lie about their product in order to make a quick buck

You created a fake/throwaway just to make posts with this kind of cheap insults?