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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by richardw on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:30PM (#41751023)
A 12 year old that doesn’t sleep, eat, or forget, learns anything within seconds, can replicate and work together with fast as light communication and no data loss when doing so. Arrives out of the womb knowing everything the internet knows. Can work on one problem until it gets it right. Doesn’t get stale or old. Only had emotion if it’s useful. Can do math and simulate. Doesn’t get bored. Can theoretically improve its own design and run experiments with aforementioned focus, simulation ability, etc.

What could you do at 12, with half of these advantages? Choose any of them, then give yourself infinite time to use them.

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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by bad_user on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:28PM (#41751855)
A 12 year old that doesn't interact with the world.

Many believe that AGI will happen in robots, and not in online services, simply because interacting with the environment might be a prerequisite for developing consciousness.

You mentioned boredom, which is interesting, as boredom may also be a trait of intelligence. An interesting question is if it will want to live at all. Humans have all these pleasure sensors and programming for staying alive and reproducing. The unburdened AGI in your description might not have good reasons to live. Marvin, the depressed robot, might become real.

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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by richardw on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:03PM (#41752115)
I’m not sure, but it’s possible Stephen Hawking would have been fine with becoming digital, assuming he could keep all the traits he valued. He had a pretty low data communication rate, interacted digitally and did more than most humans can. Give him access to anything digital at an high speed and he’d have had a field day. If he could stay off Twitter.
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by cdchn on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:37PM (#41751937)
>simply because interacting with the environment might be a prerequisite for developing consciousness.

We can't even define what consciousness is yet, let alone whats required to develop it.

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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by bad_user on Sunday October 06, 2024 @01:56AM (#41755063)
We may not be able to fully define Consciousness, but we can observe it in humans and develop falsifiable hypotheses, of which there are several.

Take a look at this paper: https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mtgn7

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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by SoftTalker on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:57PM (#41751219)
Why do we assume an AGI would not be forgetful or would never get bored?
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by richardw on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:56PM (#41752061)
Because we can change the hardware or software to be what we want. It can write to storage and read it, like we can but faster.
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by rktan on Saturday October 05, 2024 @01:59PM (#41751664)
A 12 year old could determine that "AI" is boring and counterproductive for humanity and switch off a computer or data center. Greta Thunberg did similar for the climate, perhaps we need a new child saint who fights "AI".
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by pstuart on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:57PM (#41751215)
And then with advancement, reaches teenage maturity and tells everyone to fuck off.
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by thordenmark on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:12PM (#41751765)
As someone who has teenagers right now, I can confirm that this is accurate.
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