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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by whamlastxmas on Saturday October 05, 2024 @11:28AM (#41750550)
I don’t even know how this fake news started
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by lolinder on Saturday October 05, 2024 @11:40AM (#41750637)
Maybe the fact that they actually did dissolve the safety team formally led by Ilya Sutskever in the aftermath of Altman's coup [0]? I'm genuinely unsure what part of this you're questioning.

[0] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-17/openai-di...

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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by whamlastxmas on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:37PM (#41751067)
Like literally the third sentence makes it clear it was restructuring team dynamics but not eliminating safety goals or even losing the employees that are safety focused. There are many safety focused people at OpenAI and they never fired or laid off people in a safety team which is what people infer from “dissolve the safety team” when it’s used as a bullet point of criticism
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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by lolinder on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:43PM (#41751105)
It's pretty obvious to most of us that "integrating the group more deeply across its research efforts to help the company achieve its safety goals" is the corporate spin for what was actually "disperse the group that thought its job was to keep Altman himself accountable to safety goals and replace them with a group that Altman personally leads".

Eliminating Ilya's team was part of the post-coup restructuring to consolidate Altman's power, and every tribute to "safety" paid since then is spin.

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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by richk449 on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:38PM (#41751946)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dissolve

Definitions of dissolve:

to cause to disperse or disappear

to separate into component parts

to become dissipated (see DISSIPATE sense 1) or decompose

BREAK UP, DISPERSE

Those seem like pretty accurate descriptions of what happened. Yes, dissolve can also mean something stronger, so perhaps it is fair to call the statement ambiguous. But it isn’t incorrect.

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