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Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by kotaKat on Friday October 04, 2024 @06:37AM (#41739995)
Will there be full size HDMI or will the cabal that forces them to use mini/microHDMI keep its hold on the 500?

I never got why they left the waste of a GPIO connector on the 400 and forced you to have to adapt the video outs.

Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by serf on Friday October 04, 2024 @07:55AM (#41740461)
waste of a gpio connector?

that's the whole point for a lot of us, otherwise we'd just use one of the billion other SBCs.

If the requisite is "I need an sbc to jam into a keyboard that has a modern vid-out" there are plenty of small SBCs and massive keyboards.

Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by rincebrain on Friday October 04, 2024 @08:43AM (#41740809)
I think the frustration was probably that it seemed like, to them, many more people would potentially benefit from not having to have a video adapter on the SBC in a keyboard form factor, and an adapter potentially to full-sized pinout on the GPIO headers, than having to have an adapter for video, and the full-sized GPIO pins, since most people are likely not buying the keyboard form factor as a headless device.
Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by throwgfgfd25 on Friday October 04, 2024 @10:49AM (#41742014)
> since most people are likely not buying the keyboard form factor as a headless device

A big part of the aim was simply to provide a nearly-all-in-one device for educational computing.

Physical computing is part of the school curriculum in the UK, mainly starting in Key Stage 2 (7-11 year olds, though there's some in Key Stage 1, as well).

This device exists in a very particular market space where for example the CrowPi laptops sell quite well. But it has been made by team of people who are influenced by the BBC Model B and the profound impact it had.

Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by rincebrain on Friday October 04, 2024 @02:54PM (#41744455)
Sure, and I'm not advocating for removing the GPIO, just that it seems like "make the GPIO require an adapter, and allow full-sized video without one" might service more use cases without an adapter, since I propose that more people want to use the Pi 400 with video than want to use it with GPIO.

I'm not saying the latter isn't a significant fraction, I'm just saying I think almost nobody buys the keyboard form factor device not to use the video with it.

Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by tdeck on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:44AM (#41747785)
The Pi 400 doesn't require an adapter, it requires a micro HDMI cable, but such a cable doesn't take up any more space than a regular HDMI cable. I don't think I've ever seen a monitor with a permanently attached HDMI cable, so what use cases does the micro HDMI preclude?
Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by capitantrueno on Friday October 04, 2024 @07:44AM (#41740378)
Aren't the GPIO pins, like, the one thing that differentiates the Pi from any other micro PC?
Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by tdeck on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:41AM (#41747775)
It's surprising how many folks commenting on this article seem to have no use for GPIO at all and therefore don't see the point of the RPi.
Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by throwgfgfd25 on Friday October 04, 2024 @10:46AM (#41741984)
The presence of a GPIO connector in a keyboard format computer is basically the entire point of the Raspberry Pi 400.

You can consider the Pi 400 to be a very particular love letter to the BBC model B, with the GPIO port providing the kind of physical computing access provided by the "Tube" port.

Re:It looks like there will be a Raspberry Pi 500 by hadlock on Friday October 04, 2024 @03:24PM (#41744759)
I'm not sure why this got downvoted. HDMI isn't that large, and needing a specialty adapter for an otherwise useful device isn't good. I'd gladly pay the extra $0.30 or whatever for the full size port. Instead I have more future landfill sitting on the shelf - a dedicated weird port to regular HDMI cable. Thanks guys.