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Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by Bnjoroge on Thursday October 03, 2024 @07:29PM (#41736153)
The problem is that tacking on to an existing product, while the ideal approach, limits just how creative you can get. I believe this is one of the reasons Cursor had to fork VSCode. Simply being an extension limited the features they could build.
Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by zbobet2012 on Thursday October 03, 2024 @08:15PM (#41736472)
Emacs has none of these problems :p
Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by mark_l_watson on Friday October 04, 2024 @07:50AM (#41740421)
True. I have been very happy using ellama.
Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by ford on Thursday October 03, 2024 @07:38PM (#41736216)
The other problem is IDEs are incentivized to build their own AI coding tools instead of letting other people plug in
Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Thursday October 03, 2024 @08:27PM (#41736546)
IDEA allows you to customize the UI quite a bit, has plugin hooks specifically for AI tools, and has several 3rd party plugins already.

None of these points seem to apply..

They're still selling their yearly subscription even if they can't upsell me on an AI subscription

Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by curiouscavalier on Thursday October 03, 2024 @07:47PM (#41736278)
Solid point. We’re building in a space adjacent to this and it definitely feels hard to balance removing friction for adoption and delivering everything we want.
Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by zmgsabst on Thursday October 03, 2024 @08:02PM (#41736402)
Okay, but why does what you want matter?

I find a lot of teams are so focused on their vision that they fail to integrate their tool into my workflow. So I don’t use them at all.

That’s fine for art, but I don’t need opinionated tools.

Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by curiouscavalier on Friday October 04, 2024 @04:35PM (#41745337)
Who said what we want has anything to do with our vision. Please don’t make assumptions about what drives our product development.

What I want in a product comes from customer interviews. It’s not “my opinion” other than perhaps our team’s interpretation of customer requests. A customer can want certain pain points addressed and have friction to move to a particular solution at the same time.

Or does wanting a product that meets customer needs too opinionated?

Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by joshstrange on Thursday October 03, 2024 @07:37PM (#41736209)
I completely get this and I don’t have a good answer to the issue. I almost wish I liked VSCode since almost all AI editors are forks of that (not sure what the extension compatibility story is), but prefer IDEA.
Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by NitpickLawyer on Friday October 04, 2024 @02:33AM (#41738435)
> (not sure what the extension compatibility story is)

So far I've had all the vscode extensions just work in cursor (including devcontainers, docker, etc.) I hope it continues like this, as breaking extensions is something that would take away from the usefulness of cursor.

Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by yas_hmaheshwari on Friday October 04, 2024 @02:44AM (#41738474)
I am also using intelliJ, but have started tinkering with Cursor

My hunch says that IDEA should be worried a lot. If I am on the edge evaluating other tools because of AI assisted programming, lot of others would be doing that too

Re:Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT by noch on Friday October 04, 2024 @08:00AM (#41740502)
> but prefer IDEA.

IDEA has "AI Assistant"[^0]. Is it not usable for you (I might have missed your comment mentioning it)?

[^0]: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/ai-assistant.html