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Re:OpenAI Completes Deal That Values Company at $157B by BobbyJo on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @10:10PM (#41726674)
> Google's current market capitalization is in the trillions.

2 trillion. Approximately 13x OpenAI's current valuation. Google nets almost 100 billion a year. OpenAI grosses 4 billion a year.

Wild numbers.

Re:OpenAI Completes Deal That Values Company at $157B by tptacek on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @10:22PM (#41726737)
A private pre-IPO investment is a bet on where OpenAI will be 10 years from now, not where they are now.
Re:OpenAI Completes Deal That Values Company at $157B by BobbyJo on Thursday October 03, 2024 @05:38AM (#41728962)
Yes, but they generally shoot for 5-10x. So they are betting on OpenAI growing gross revenue like 20x assuming their costs stay the same.
Re:OpenAI Completes Deal That Values Company at $157B by tptacek on Thursday October 03, 2024 @02:48PM (#41733658)
The later the investment stage, the lower the expected multiple, but also I don't know that 20x is a crazy expectation to have about OpenAI? It might not happen, but people really fixated on that "might", which is not what venture investing is about.
Re:OpenAI Completes Deal That Values Company at $157B by BobbyJo on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @10:44AM (#41777911)
20x isn't crazy, but its what they need just to reach parity P/E with Google (assuming their costs remain flat). In order for the investment to make sense they have to grow much much more than that to account for the extra risk, otherwise you're better off buying Google stock.

If we throw out some conservative numbers, and assume costs will rise super modestly, you have to believe OpenAI's earning will grow 50-100x for the investment to make sense. They'd have to maintain their current growth rate for 5+ years, but I wouldn't be surprised if their revenue growth is already slowing