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Re:Awala: The computer network on which humankind can rely by senectus1 on Monday September 30, 2024 @03:09AM (#41694354)
how would this work in jurastictions that are likely to jail you for transporting information across borders like say the great firewall of china etc.

I would expect that just having the app installed would get you some quiet time in a small room.

Re:Awala: The computer network on which humankind can rely by ngcc_hk on Monday September 30, 2024 @03:33AM (#41694494)
But for that, just what you communicate would be checked and why communicate…
Re:Awala: The computer network on which humankind can rely by simne on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:21AM (#41695497)
China is very special case of totalitarianism with low entropy, but most other totalitarianism cases have low entropy only in capital City, and extremely corrupted outside capital, especially on borders.

This is don't mean that you could run across border on station wagon filled with prohibited content, but somebody could hide something like microSD in clothes.

Exists paradox - people usually thinking, jails have very strong and serious security system so inside there should be sterile environment without anything prohibited, but in reality usually there exist black market of prohibited things.

Re:Awala: The computer network on which humankind can rely by gnarea on Monday September 30, 2024 @07:26AM (#41695923)
> how would this work in jurastictions that are likely to jail you for transporting information across borders

Great question! This is, by far, my biggest worry. Especially in North Korea if we ever launch there. This is actually going to be the topic of the next episode in the Inside Awala podcast: https://awala.alitu.com/

Long story short, there are measures that we've taken, and measures we will take.

Measures that we've taken include using another layer of E2E encryption for the data transported by couriers and minimising the metadata to such an extent that you couldn't see who's the sender/recipient, even if the authorities took the courier's device to a lab. This way, couriers couldn't be coerced into giving something they don't have.

Measures we will take include concealing the app. For example, it could look and behave as a calculator when you open it (even its icon and name could convey that), and you'd only see the actual app once you enter a particular math expression.

Also, the technology is getting independent security audits periodically. They're currently wrapping up the latest one, and the report should be available in the coming weeks.

As for China, that's a totally different problem: They do have access to the Internet, but it's heavily censored. However, we're tackling that problem too now, as we're adding a resilient VPN function to Awala, whose prototype was already tested in China: https://github.com/relaycorp/fanqiang-poc

The reason for this VPN functionality inside Awala is that, at the end of the day, every single region that's susceptible to Internet blackouts is also subject to Internet censorship when the Internet is available. So people shouldn't have to install multiple apps for the various types of censorship they will be subjected to at different points in time.

Re:Awala: The computer network on which humankind can rely by jrexilius on Monday September 30, 2024 @09:09AM (#41696705)
Have you considered leveraging steganography in the sneakernet transport layer? Maybe something like https://steganography.live/info
Re:Awala: The computer network on which humankind can rely by gnarea on Monday September 30, 2024 @11:21AM (#41698203)
I have! https://github.com/AwalaApp/specs/issues/44

However, at the sneakernet level, and at least today, I think the only region where it'd be useful would be North Korea, if this is ever used there. Interestingly enough, I'll be talking about this in the next episode of the Inside Awala podcast, in case you're interested: https://awala.alitu.com