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Re:Being Raised by the Internet by kragen on Sunday September 29, 2024 @06:57PM (#41691593)
i mean, you could totally solve a problem yourself and not write it up. i did that lots of times too!

it'll be interesting to see what happens with llms and things like stack exchange

Re:Being Raised by the Internet by night862 on Sunday September 29, 2024 @07:31PM (#41691850)
Well, it isn’t great. Computers are logic, and LLM tools are not really able to derive logic from language.

Is there is enough logic q&a yeah they manage to produce something like what people talk about.

My experience with this has been terrible, I find them useless.

Re:Being Raised by the Internet by kragen on Sunday September 29, 2024 @07:34PM (#41691878)
monsieur, what good is a new-born baby?
Re:Being Raised by the Internet by rockskon on Sunday September 29, 2024 @10:58PM (#41693094)
LLMs are not intellence. They are not AGI. They do not have the reasoning skills of a baby. This is not something they will "grow into". No amount of additional training data in the world will turn LLMs into AGI. Any argument to the contrary is pure, 100% copium to justify the hundreds of billions of dollars industry has poured into this technology.
Re:Being Raised by the Internet by kragen on Sunday September 29, 2024 @11:09PM (#41693165)
hot air balloons aren't birds either, monsieur
Re:Being Raised by the Internet by rockskon on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:16AM (#41695474)
That analogy still doesn't mean LLMs are a form of intelligence with reasoning capability.
Re:Being Raised by the Internet by kragen on Monday September 30, 2024 @08:09AM (#41696251)
it also doesn't mean sulfur is a metal
Re:Being Raised by the Internet by night862 on Monday September 30, 2024 @10:32PM (#41704141)
If and when you try to derive logic from the statistical model that is an LLM, you will face the same problem that Bertrand Russel did.

Good luck.

Re:Being Raised by the Internet by pjc50 on Monday September 30, 2024 @04:39AM (#41694877)
LLMs kill stackexchange and all of the wonderful gift economy, because they replace humans in the loop with uncanny humanoids with whom it is impossible by their nature to have a real connection.

I think the next generation of popular counterculture service is going to be one which goes to extreme lengths to verify that the participants are authentic humans.

Re:Being Raised by the Internet by PedroBatista on Monday September 30, 2024 @05:31AM (#41695215)
So Blade Runner is a documentary of the future?

Starting in the Internet first then IRL.

I joke but this is already has been happening for many years: email verification, captcha, pics with a customized message.. just like “AI” was present in 90s digital cameras.

Re:Being Raised by the Internet by johnnyanmac on Monday September 30, 2024 @05:52AM (#41695339)
>i mean, you could totally solve a problem yourself and not write it up. i did that lots of times too!

sure. that's how we shifted to a hustle culture. launch something useful, get fanbase, and then think of writing it up for marketing purposes.

but obviously the dynamic here isn't necessarily a community of like minded people sharing info. But more of a semi-captive audience interested in seeing more of the product.

Re:Being Raised by the Internet by kragen on Monday September 30, 2024 @09:43AM (#41696989)
no, i mean, for example, i got gnu patch to compile and work on windows nt 3.51 under cygwin, but i never made the additional effort to send the necessary diffs to paul eggert so that, if he wanted to integrate them, nobody else would have to do the same thing