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Re:Smart TVs Are Watching You by Eisenstein on Saturday September 28, 2024 @04:10PM (#41682654)
You can't claim something is a benefit for consumers if the consumers are not offered a competing product without the predatory features for more money. Let's put a 'dumb' TV on the market and regulate that 'smart' TV boxes have to say 'this is cheaper because we make most of our profit from it by screenshoting what you watch 100 times a second and selling it to the highest bidder' and see what the market thinks about it.
Re:Smart TVs Are Watching You by redwall_hp on Saturday September 28, 2024 @07:18PM (#41683598)
Also if you buy a TV with no ads or other predatory features, then they push a software update that adds them. You can hardly say the customer was a "rational actor" who made an informed choice if you change their property after you sold it to them.
Re:Smart TVs Are Watching You by slothtrop on Sunday September 29, 2024 @07:56PM (#41692015)
If the demand is strong enough, there will be. No one leaves money on the table. As it stands, it's deemed too risky.

I'd like another querty productivity phone as good as the BB curve 9320 or Q10 was, and willing to pay, but it probably won't happen.

Re:Smart TVs Are Watching You by Eisenstein on Monday September 30, 2024 @05:49PM (#41702530)
You are presupposing that people are going to be omniscient. Without knowing the downsides of the thing they are buying that is cheaper, there will never be demand for something more expensive that doesn't have them. My argument is that if we put on the box what the thing does, many fewer people would buy it, and there would be demand for something that doesn't have those 'features'. It is easy to justify after the fact which is why they just do it and when it becomes common enough people stop caring because they already invest money into it.

'The market is the solution' is true only as long as human factors are seen as market distortions and mitigated through regulation.