Re:Why the U.S. can't build icebreaking ships
by wakawaka28 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @09:10PM
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Labor is much more expensive in the US than elsewhere. That is the overwhelming burden in every industry. We need protectionist laws to guarantee that we can manufacture what we must have for strategic reasons, at minimum.
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Re:Why the U.S. can't build icebreaking ships
by JumpCrisscross on Friday September 27, 2024 @12:38AM
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> Labor is much more expensive in the US than elsewhere. That is the overwhelming burden in every industry
This is true. But it’s not the root cause for our shipbuilding problems. Our dockworkers and shipbuilders are uniquely inefficient.
Re:Why the U.S. can't build icebreaking ships
by wakawaka28 on Friday September 27, 2024 @11:22AM
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Maybe our dockworkers and shipbuilders are dragging to extend contracts that they only got due to protectionist laws to begin with. If they had more work to do and more experience, they might become more efficient.
Re:Why the U.S. can't build icebreaking ships
by ywvcbk on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:50AM
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I’m not sure labor costs could explain the difference the supposedly 5x difference in cost between Finland and the US. Labor is only a fraction of the overall cost and the difference is not that huge (e.g. average wage is $63k vs $50k).
It’s more likely that US workers (in this sector) expect to get paid $100k to produce $20k of value (relative to other countries)
Re:Why the U.S. can't build icebreaking ships
by wakawaka28 on Friday September 27, 2024 @11:21AM
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Of course I'm not talking about averages. Average fast food workers make as much as engineers in some other countries. I'm not sure wages at the low-skill end are much lower in Europe, but certainly engineers seem to be paid less there. I assume that is similar across skilled professions. Comparing the US to Asia, yes the wage differences are across the board.