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Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by tommiegannert on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:11PM (#41660815)
The study: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-024-02525-2

Sampaio et al., Multidimensional social influence drives leadership and composition-dependent success in octopus–fish hunting groups

I was curious about the the 3D reconstruction of the scenes.

> We manually tracked individuals in the videos using the software Computer Vision Annotation Tool. We annotated three frames per second, which yielded a time resolution of 0.33 s for animal movement.

> We then used another software developed to incorporate the previously tracked animals in each camera in the ‘colmap’ habitat models and camera paths, ‘multiviewtracks’ or ‘mvt’ [29]

> [29] Francisco, F. A., Nührenberg, P. & Jordan, A. High-resolution, non-invasive animal tracking and reconstruction of local environment in aquatic ecosystems

Seems it was specifically developed to track fish. Cool project.

Links to https://github.com/matterport/Mask_RCNN and https://github.com/pnuehrenberg/multiviewtracks.

Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by UncleOxidant on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:46PM (#41661154)
It's too bad there aren't more software projects (and jobs) like this.
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by AndrewKemendo on Thursday September 26, 2024 @02:15PM (#41661435)
Octopuses don’t have money, so the people with money aren’t interested in putting more resources into understanding octopuses.
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by rkagerer on Thursday September 26, 2024 @02:35PM (#41661645)
But surely if they can punch fish they can click ads?
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by tonetegeatinst on Thursday September 26, 2024 @03:16PM (#41662099)
Awaiting the ad industry giants to see this new source of end users.
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by glompers on Thursday September 26, 2024 @04:15PM (#41662793)
New meaning to HN hug of death too
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by fuzztester on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:27PM (#41665983)
hee hee x 8 x n.

(n is the number of octopi, and 8 tentacles per octopus).

Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by yumraj on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:24AM (#41666555)
It’s sad that you thought you had to explain it.
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by fuzztester on Friday September 27, 2024 @03:09PM (#41674419)
Really?

It's even sadder that you felt the need to spend your precious time commenting on something you think is sad.

Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by patcon on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:15PM (#41664582)
Oy, this just gave me a dystopic angle on a collective intelligence initiative I'm excited about: using LLMs to get non-human entities like rivers on advisory boards.

https://x.com/zarinahagnew/status/1815442685446033613

> Voice of Nature - leveraging advanced environmental data, we're developing fine-tuned AI agents that can deliberate on behalf of non-human stakeholders & better represent/surface relevant information about our ecosystems, as a method to improve collective intelligence.

The dystopic angle: what if future energy goes into bringing nature into active engagement with capitalism...

Hopefully I'm never living in the world where someone has a bridge in Brooklyn to sell and the buyer is the Hudson River :)

Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by rkagerer on Thursday September 26, 2024 @09:10PM (#41665294)
Some rivers have been granted legal personhood: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/these-rive... (with a varying spectrum of exactly what that means).
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by wut-wut on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:39PM (#41664747)
Facts
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by rmbyrro on Thursday September 26, 2024 @08:16PM (#41664983)
Wait, if I train octopuses to click ads on my website, it's not ad fraud, is it? They're not bots...
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by BLKNSLVR on Thursday September 26, 2024 @09:47PM (#41665480)
Up to 4x efficiency gains!
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by fuzztester on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:23PM (#41665960)
Tentacular comment!
Re:Octopuses seen hunting together with fish, punching those... by mhagiwara on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:13PM (#41664572)