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Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by raxxorraxor on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:18AM (#41659371)
For me personally they build a lot of trust back with their work on llama. Also they do have capable software engineers. But hardware is a different thing. I am still burned by their handling of hardware support for Oculus devices. To such a degree that neither VR nor AR is of significant interest anymore, never mind developing software for such products.

That said, I was never a Facebook user. I do have an account and that is that, which I tend to not use in most browser session because of Facebook surveillance.

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by stiray on Thursday September 26, 2024 @12:38PM (#41660482)
If you are android user, dont know about Apple, 3rd party applications are full of Facebook SDK, try installing https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases (and pay author a coffee, he seriously deserves it) and check the domains apps are accessing. You might figure out you are Facebook user. Just nobody told you.
Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by JimDabell on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:18PM (#41660884)
This was the point of App Tracking Transparency (ATT) on iOS. If an app embeds a third-party SDK that tracks you, such as the Facebook SDK, they are required to get your permission first with a system popup. They aren’t allowed to track you silently without your knowledge.
Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by hathawsh on Thursday September 26, 2024 @02:21PM (#41661507)
I would be very interested in learning how ATT compares with Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection. Does anyone know?
Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by JimDabell on Friday September 27, 2024 @03:45AM (#41667435)
To be clear, ATT is the system Apple put in place for native apps that is enforced by the App Store review process. When it comes to the browser, I think you’re more interested in Intelligent Tracking Prevention (ITP).

You should check out WebKit‘s tracking prevention policy:

https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention-policy/

Also the Privacy category on the WebKit blog:

https://webkit.org/blog/category/privacy/

Specific blog posts you might be interested in are:

https://webkit.org/blog/7675/intelligent-tracking-prevention...

https://webkit.org/blog/9521/intelligent-tracking-prevention...

https://webkit.org/blog/10218/full-third-party-cookie-blocki...

https://webkit.org/blog/11338/cname-cloaking-and-bounce-trac...

https://webkit.org/blog/11545/updates-to-the-storage-access-...

https://webkit.org/blog/15697/private-browsing-2-0/

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by stiray on Friday September 27, 2024 @05:27AM (#41668051)
Yes, I am aware, that Apple is trying very hard to be the only one in ecosystem, that is tracking you where you cant do anything to avoid it due to completely closed phone.

With such a cure, you don't need disease.

That is why I was using heavily modified Android.

As I could prevent Android tracking me and kick the Google spyware out of it completely.

I am now using Sailfish ( https://sailfishos.org ) and I don't need to care about Google or Apple any more. Need to patch banking app from time to time and use plastic cards, but this is acceptable (well, not from bank software but I couldn't care less, they are free to port it to linux and make it open source /s ).

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Anyway, the GDPR is requiring from applications to disclose tracking and allow you to chose what tracking if any, you will allow, before it occurs. Not only that, PIA cant be a payment for app usage.

So in theory, Apple is only enforcing what is already required from applications by EU directive.

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by Meniceses on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:07PM (#41660777)
Paid and provided by "Pay to win games, targeting kids, not preventing fake news (covid, human harrassment etc.), probably someone died due to lack of taking ownership/responsibility, election fraud through not acting on it.

Yes i do like Llama but lets be honest who paid for it and for what.

Just because suckerburg gives us nice toys...

He could actually start giving his money away to humanity in a relevant and meaningful way to start fixing what he did to our society.

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by talldayo on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:19PM (#41660899)
> Paid and provided by "Pay to win games, targeting kids, not preventing fake news

Guess what? New iOS features and YouTube videos are paid-for and provided in the exact same way. Both Apple and Google are complicit in spreading misinformation, advertising to kids and profiting from lootbox/microtransaction revenue. But nobody consciously objects to Apple for partnering with Taboola, or Google for supporting extremism on YouTube. No sane critic lashes out at Tim Cook or Sundar Pichai demanding they donate their life savings to offset the obvious damages they've created.

I think Meta and moreover Facebook is a purely detestable platform. It's absolutely hilarious how unwilling this website is to apply the same criticism to their other favorite services. The cognitive dissonance is arresting.

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by bordercases on Thursday September 26, 2024 @02:07PM (#41661358)
To be fair, you don't know what the poster believes about those services either.
Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by talldayo on Thursday September 26, 2024 @02:28PM (#41661576)
That's true, but my stance frankly wouldn't change if they also thought Google and Apple needed to spend the rest of their existence as a charity case. My point is more that it's a silly measure of damages, since this behavior is table stakes in the FAANG echelons. It's like saying that we should reject Open Source contributions by Google and Amazon because they pay their engineers with money made off exploitative server deals. It's a reach.
Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by stiray on Friday September 27, 2024 @03:26AM (#41667333)
Open Source contributions are there for three reasons. Either the license requires it (Google Fuchsia is a step into avoiding this), it is a public relations stunt or they want other software developers work for them for free (which is also dropping the wages for their developers).

Never ever mistake any company that has public stocks doing anything else but earning money for the stock owners. As they didnt buy the stocks to support charity but to earn money.

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by stiray on Friday September 27, 2024 @03:22AM (#41667305)
That is actually simple, they are the same but I am not using behavior of other corrupt companies to make Facebook look better. Or try to derail debate to other companies.

Which is imho the correct behavior.

And, if possible (do read further, to see what I consider possible), I don't use their products, not having any Apple product, phone is Lumia with Sailfish OS and carefully blocking all the shit 3rd party products bring in, potentially not even using them (smartwatches aka spyware on your wrist, due to cloud dependence), Windows (i have Linux and FreeBSD everywhere, even kids don't use Windows but they do use Graphene OS on phones, couldn't do anything else there due to peer pressure)

Where this is impossible due to the public drive (try to block Google/Microsoft/Amazon ASNs and you will be effectively alone on the internet, due to cloud - interesting detail, while even Duckduckgo doesn't work, the Yandex does), I do everything to avoid as much of crap as possible, like blocking the trackers, randomizing fingerprinting, youtube ads, not having a google account, using youtube for exactly what I am searching for (a lot of content on internet is no longer written, which I prefer, but rather recorded as a video, so you are literally forced to use youtube), being 100% self hosted (not on cloud, physical server that I have built, with ups in my house) from mail to caldav, using self hosted searx for searching, having redundant zfs storage, doing backups to the tape, have my own VPN randomly deployed to other VPS providers...

Bottom line, doing everything that nobody else "has time to do it" and it is surprisingly simple and non time consuming when you "find time to do it" aka "you know how to do it and you consider it easy".

Or when you are sick enough of companies trying to privatize internet. SAAS? Over my dead body.

Anyway vacuum cleaner is rooted and modified, "Smart TV" is not connected and blocked on router (with default blocking hardware that wasn't added to the pass trough rule manually), became smart under my conditions with raspberry pi. Avoiding buying anything with "smart" label unless i know I will be able to root it or circumvent call home, like air condition.

Interestingly, mail server where everyone is complaining about not self hosting it, is the simplest, nicest piece of software, that I don't even need to look at it for months. It just works and all mails get delivered.

+40 hours / week backend software development for some company and having a family with kids in primary school. Just so you know I am not in pension yet. ;)

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by Meniceses on Friday September 27, 2024 @06:37AM (#41668623)
Apple is responsible for plenty of death in foxcon companies.

Google, is a lot different than Apple or Facebook. Google did a lot for our society through Android, Google maps, https, Gmail, Kubernetes and Search.

YouTube had a problem with fake news and especially the algorithm (flat earth etc.) but they actually acted on it a lot faster than facebook ever tried.

But yes pls don't assume something without knowing were my viewpoints are. There is no cognitive dissonance but we talk here about facebook and not about every other companie on the planet.

Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by specproc on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:48PM (#41664376)
I don't think we need more billionaires giving their money away. I think they and their companies need to pay tax properly so we can vote on how it's spent.
Re:Orion, Our First True Augmented Reality Glasses by PaulHoule on Thursday September 26, 2024 @03:00PM (#41661918)
I have made my peace with React (I know I can draw anything I can imagine with it, which I can't say for Vue, I can even draw 3-d worlds) but many people think React ruined web development.