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Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by diogenes_atx on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @11:52PM (#41654375)
Even if the police were able to establish that the ruler and calculator belonged to the victim, it is merely circumstantial evidence. It does not prove Williams was the killer.

Here is a quick summary of the main issues: (1) There is no reliable evidence that Williams is guilty of the crime; (2) The DNA evidence from the crime scene does not match Williams; (3) Numerous legal experts, including St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Wesley Bell, argued convincingly that Williams' death sentence should have been commuted to life in prison, at a minimum; (4) A Republican governor ignored the facts and legal opinions and simply murdered Williams.

Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by lolinder on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @11:56PM (#41654396)
> Even if the police were able to establish that the ruler and calculator belonged to the victim, it is merely circumstantial evidence. It does not prove Williams was the killer.

I agree. You were still wrong in ways that do matter. Acknowledging it gracefully makes your case stronger, not weaker.

Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by qingcharles on Thursday September 26, 2024 @12:32AM (#41654578)
What percentage of trials rely on circumstantial evidence? It has to be a high percentage.
Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by xapata on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:12AM (#41654741)
Isn't the jury responsible for determining what's reliable evidence?
Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by komali2 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @01:18AM (#41654778)
Kind of, They can also be instructed to ignore certain evidence, or certain evidence can be barred from being shown to them.
Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by ekidd on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:48AM (#41656422)
Juries absolutely do make errors, including ones which result in innocent people being put to death.

In a number of cases, the Innocence Project has certainly managed to find hard DNA evidence that linked the actual murderer to the crime, resulting in saving people from death row. One of my friends worked on some of these cases. As former law enforcement, he was very much aware of the various ways the system can fail. Police officers commit perjury on the stand, "expert" witnesses use pseudoscience with zero factual evidence (there are processes to prevent this which have gotten slightly better), and there are shockingly terrible public defenders.

Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by mrgoldenbrown on Thursday September 26, 2024 @10:16AM (#41658677)
The jury didn't get to see everything. It certainly didn't get to see the results of dna testing that happened after the trial.
Re:Who Is Marcellus Williams: Execution in Missouri Despite ... by iphoneisbetter on Thursday September 26, 2024 @08:10AM (#41657403)
> Even if the police were able to establish that the ruler and calculator belonged to the victim, it is merely circumstantial evidence. It does not prove Williams was the killer.

It would appear the jury disagreed with you. Cue the liberal bitching about how American justice is broke, blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Same shit, different day, different website.