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Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by protomolecule on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @09:46AM (#41647490)
Which would require much more power than a single RITEG.
Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by arethuza on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @10:16AM (#41647815)
Why - 25km of fibre isn't that large?
Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by jdiez17 on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @12:19PM (#41649050)
Back of the envelope feasibility check: assume the cable is a cylinder with diameter = 1cm, length = 25km. The area of the cylinder face is A = 2*pi*r*h = 785.4 m^2. The thermal conductivity of water ice is approx. 2.3 W / (m K). So to maintain a temperature difference of 10 K with the ice, you need 2.3 W/mK * 785 * 10 = approximately 18kW.
Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by arethuza on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @12:44PM (#41649276)
I was assuming something little thicker than optical fibre - the "probe" could be self powered using an RTG with the "waste" heat doing the melting?

Once the ice freezes again behind the probe it would protect the fibre... perhaps?

Fortunately something like that wouldn't be too difficult to test on Earth - probe recovery might be tricky though.

Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by nick238 on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @03:10PM (#41650846)
A mini nuclear-reactor-as-a-heat-source might be appropriate for a melt-drill. RTGs are a bit unfortunate as they'll exponentially decay from the time of manufacturing, and you'll need to both 1. deliver high enough power at Europa, and 2. radiate away that much power and a bit more when you're flying there.

A nuclear reactor could produce basically no heat while offline, then be switched on and suddenly provide 100s of kW when it gets to wherever it's going. The hard part in space is radiating away the heat, but if you're on an ice world, that's orders of magnitude easier.

The hardest part I'd see would just be getting into the ice; there's not really any "melting" in vacuum. The constant boiling away of the water would keep insulating your heater from the ice. Meters 1 to 20,000 are probably pretty easy.