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Re:Software development topics I've changed my mind on after... by arp242 on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @08:27PM (#41642412)
A stand-up is "here is what I worked on, here is what I'm going to work on, and here is what I had or am having trouble with". And if I can help you out with something or want to discuss more for any other reason, then I say "John, I can help you with that; I'll hit you up after the meet", and you say "k" and that's the end of it.

Or at least, that's how it should be. But half the people tell long shaggy dog stories because they fear "I worked on feature X, it's going well" or some such is too short or basic, but it's not. Or they turn into long protracted debug sessions that's only really of interest to two people but 7 others are watching. That should be done after the standup.

It's really just intended to 1) give everyone a basic idea of what people are working on, and 2) a moment to check in and ask for help, and/or offer help.

Re:Software development topics I've changed my mind on after... by randomdata on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @10:08PM (#41642986)
Right, understood that the standup was conceived under XP, which is a framework for operating self-organizing teams without managers, and it is likely you need that collaboration when you have no mangers.

But when was the last time you saw a team without managers? When you have managers, the whole reason for their existence is to take that kind of management work off the plate of developers, so that the developers can focus on what's important.

If you are having standups and managers, you need to seriously consider replacing the managers because they have straight up failed to do their job.