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Re:WP Engine sent "cease and desist" letter to Automattic by arp242 on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @06:53PM (#41641844)
Matt's message reads:

> They had the option to license the WordPress trademark for 8% of their revenue, which could be delivered either as payments, people (Five for the Future .org commitments), or any combination of the above.

So they could have "paid" by just hiring a few WordPress devs to work on it. That is: not necessarily by transferring dollars to Automattic.

IMHO this is an important bit of nuance missing in this thread.

Re:WP Engine sent "cease and desist" letter to Automattic by mthoms on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @12:06PM (#41648924)
Right. But who gatekeeps the project focus, direction and spending? Automattic does.

This would be a different conversation if there was an independent and accountable foundation driving things.

Re:WP Engine sent "cease and desist" letter to Automattic by arp242 on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @02:31PM (#41650425)
They do the majority of the work, so they get to decide. That's how it works everywhere. If WP Engine wants to decide they should invest the same 4,000 hours/week.
Re:WP Engine sent "cease and desist" letter to Automattic by mthoms on Thursday September 26, 2024 @03:49PM (#41662460)
That's the problem though. It's a chicken and egg issue. Those donated hours could be directed towards things that aren't in WPEngines interest. To use an analogy: it's taxation without representation. That seems counter to the open source ethos.

If everything was handled by an independent, transparent and accountable foundation then this would be a different conversation. It isn't. It's handled by a private, for profit, vc-backed company with a leader known for personal vendettas and holding grudges.

I want to be clear: I have no love for WPE and agree they should be doing way more. I'm just pointing out that the current arrangement is not exactly conducive to facilitating that.

Re:WP Engine sent "cease and desist" letter to Automattic by arp242 on Sunday September 29, 2024 @06:37PM (#41691433)
> Those donated hours could be directed towards things that aren't in WPEngines interest

I have a hard time seeing how that can happen. WP-Engine still decides what bits of WordPress they work on – it's just a matter of having developers who work on it.