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Re:Telegram will now hand over phone number and IP for crimi... by petesergeant on Monday September 23, 2024 @04:11PM (#41629966)
> telegram, not being a UK company (imho) shouldn't be forced to give UK government/police peoples ip addresses and phone numbers

They absolutely should if they want to operate in the UK.

Re:Telegram will now hand over phone number and IP for crimi... by switch007 on Monday September 23, 2024 @04:27PM (#41630133)
Define operate in.

Does HN operate in the UK because I can access it here? Should they be subject to UK law?

Re:Telegram will now hand over phone number and IP for crimi... by Jaepa on Monday September 23, 2024 @04:47PM (#41630366)
Should the same rule exists in more authoritarian countries like China, North Korea, or Belarus?

If so should the government be allowed access to non-nationals outside the country? How about if a non-national is inside the country communicating with those outside? How about if those folks are journalist reporting where journalism is illegal (see Russia's laws on "fake news" on Ukraine).

I'm not saying your point of view is wrong, but I think its easy to jump to that conclusion as this is probably the least sympathetic case to set principle. But this _does_ set principle.

Re:Telegram will now hand over phone number and IP for crimi... by ajsnigrutin on Monday September 23, 2024 @06:04PM (#41631076)
> Should the same rule exists in more authoritarian countries like China, North Korea, or Belarus?

If eg. Iran requested IP addresses from Pornhub (Aylo?) for all the visitors from iranian ip addresses who have viewed a gay video there, people would be changing their view pretty fast.

Re:Telegram will now hand over phone number and IP for crimi... by ajsnigrutin on Monday September 23, 2024 @05:45PM (#41630938)
But they're registered in UAE (i think it's there).

They might get "visitors" from UK, but so do "coffeeshops" in amsterdam.