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Re:The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age by ajb on Saturday September 21, 2024 @01:06PM (#41611240)
Well that's an interesting theory. However, on reading it, my leading hypotheses are that people who express such disbelief in the possibility of their being selfish, either lack self-insight, or are lying. Your theory I would give a subjective probability rather lower than these.

Of course, this might be my lack of insight into the aspie mind. But self-interest is highly evolutionarily favourable, and is built into our brains from very early in our evolutionary history - from the first organisms that had brains.

Re:The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age by sutra_on on Saturday September 21, 2024 @03:54PM (#41612255)
Selfless people do not exist for biological and evolutionary reasons (self-preservation and such). But then... you are responding to someone who calls other people "normies".
Re:The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age by ttpphd on Saturday September 21, 2024 @01:27PM (#41611364)
Yeah it's your lack of insight and your projection of your own psychology onto others
Re:The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age by ajb on Sunday September 22, 2024 @05:28AM (#41615824)
The problem with that is: while it's true that one can't treat neurodivergent people fairly without taking heed of their testimony of how their mind works, selfishness is a behavior that has to be evaluated from an external perspective - for everyone, not just the neurodivergent. Because everyone who is ever selfish denies it, and has a story about why they're not being selfish. So it's always evaluated by POSIWID.
Re:The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age by skissane on Sunday September 22, 2024 @06:33PM (#41620660)
> Because everyone who is ever selfish denies it, and has a story about why they're not being selfish

Ayn Rand wrote a book The Virtue of Selfishness - of course, if she views selfishness as virtuous, she is going to claim that virtue for herself

Back to the realm of the more mainstream: a lot of people will admit they act selfishly sometimes - including me. I think you got to look after yourself, but you also should look out for other people - but if you go overboard on being selfless, you can start to be drained, and need to allow yourself a bit of selfishness to recharge.

I think what we really need is a healthy balance between selflessness and selfishness. And that’s the ideal I am for. But do I always get the balance right? I’m sure I don’t, sometimes I go a bit too far in one direction, other times a bit too far in the other.

I think what I’m saying here is pretty prosaic. Not everyone is going to agree, but heaps of people will.