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Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by chii on Saturday September 21, 2024 @07:58AM (#41609414)
> like Star Citizen

which has amazing content - as judged by the sales of the ships and such in the game, even before gameplay existed.

The problem with concord is that there are a bunch of wokes at the helm, trying to push a personal agenda via this project, but failing to see that gamers aren't buying what they're selling. Gamers who, first and foremost, want fun games, cool graphics and immersion in fantasy.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by nerdjon on Saturday September 21, 2024 @08:46AM (#41609622)
I guarantee you that was not the actual problem with this game. The more inclusive part of this game was barely talked about because most don’t care and have realized they the world is bigger than their narrow view.

Most games today are diverse, some more than others. Including many Sony games that sell incredibly well.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by robertlagrant on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:37AM (#41609876)
> The more inclusive part of this game was barely talked about because most don’t care and have realized they the world is bigger than their narrow view.

This is never the problem with games that fail due to "woke" things. You, probably like the Concord devs, have a different definition of "woke" to the critics, and until you realise that you'll continue to make this mistake.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by BoxFour on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:50AM (#41609965)
You’ve made a valid point mainly because, for a significant portion of people who use the term, "woke" has become a blanket term for anything they don’t like.

The word has lost any specific meaning. “The game is bad because it’s bad”.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by robertlagrant on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:54AM (#41609983)
You've just made the same mistake as the OP.
Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by BoxFour on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:55AM (#41609990)
Ok.
Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by nerdjon on Saturday September 21, 2024 @10:43AM (#41610319)
So educate me.

What exactly is the critics definition of “woke” that somehow is anything other than diverse?

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by Jensson on Saturday September 21, 2024 @04:25PM (#41612462)
Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that.

When you can't criticize something that is diverse then it ensures it will be shit. You can have diverse things that are good, but not when it isn't allowed to be criticized since they will call anyone who criticizes it a racist bigot. That is what the critics means with woke.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by Capricorn2481 on Saturday September 21, 2024 @07:54PM (#41613528)
> Hostility towards anyone who criticizes anything that could be considered diverse. You see a lot of that

So if the game is woke, the game is inherently hostile to your criticism? You, the consumer, are being attacked by the game? How can a game be made in a way that is hostile to your criticism without fourth-wall breaking finger wagging?

Hating on Concord right now is the literal safest opinion you could have about it. This makes it not Woke by your definition.

> That is what the critics means with woke

This is not what most people mean by woke. It's nice that you have a sunnier definition of it that criticizes surface-level diversity in place of substance, but anything with women or black people in it is considered woke nowadays, regardless of quality.

You will often see people change their minds about something being woke once it sells well because it goes against the narrative that if something is "woke" nobody wants it. We've seen this with Barbie, Baldurs Gates 3, and even Life is Strange. A game that is the closest thing to "woke" anyone could mean.

It's just a dog whistle for people that want to keep things white.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by nerdjon on Saturday September 21, 2024 @04:54PM (#41612609)
No, you very much can criticize something that is diverse because there are aspects outside of that. Like Concord.

You could even criticize how it’s diverse. If it’s done in an insensitive manner for example. Maybe they changed a character after they were established, (as a gay man myself I hate when they change a characters sexuality). Could complain that something is too sexual for the target audience(hint, gay couples existing and showing affection isn’t “sexual” when a straight couple can do it and no one bats an eye).

But if your criticism is the existence of diversity, you’re a racist bigot and you should be called out for that. There is zero valid criticism on the mere existence of someone different than you in media.

Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by walls on Saturday September 21, 2024 @08:48AM (#41609635)
The lottery has amazing content - as judged by the sales of tickets and such.
Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by some_random on Saturday September 21, 2024 @02:56PM (#41611895)
Concord didn't even sell enough for "people aren't buying it because it's woke" to be plausible lmao
Re:Concord had a dev culture of toxic positivity that halted... by flohofwoe on Sunday September 22, 2024 @04:26AM (#41615555)
I rather suspect the game was just boring, "woke" or not.