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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by dewey on Friday September 20, 2024 @02:08AM (#41599257)
Classic HN reply that’s very disconnected from reality. Most people don’t run ZFS, most people using these tools are using this to self host their apps as it’s cheaper than managed cloud server. Usually on a dedicated or VPS server where by default you run stock Ubuntu and no niche file system.
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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by transpute on Friday September 20, 2024 @05:16AM (#41600163)
Ubuntu ships tested ZFS modules.

https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/UbuntuKernels...

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS

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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by dewey on Friday September 20, 2024 @05:22AM (#41600195)
You are missing the point, nobody doubts it's possible but defaults matter and people just commission a new "Ubuntu" server on OVH, Hetzner, DO etc. and don't configure ZFS or snapshotting or even want to know what that is.
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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by Yiin on Friday September 20, 2024 @12:18PM (#41603429)
I'm such user and couldn't agree more. Also DO provides their own backup service that works fine for weekly backups.
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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by transpute on Friday September 20, 2024 @08:45PM (#41606644)
On the journey from outsourcing to self-hosting, lessons wait patiently.
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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by sgarland on Friday September 20, 2024 @07:23AM (#41600868)
I didn’t say most people run it, I offered it as a solution. If you’re willing to run a server, you should be willing to try ZFS. As long as you follow some best practices, you’ll be fine.
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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by pmarreck on Friday September 20, 2024 @11:04AM (#41602687)
> Most people don’t run ZFS

Well, the people who host the people do. Is that not argument enough in favor of it?

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Re:Show HN: A CLI tool I made to self-host any app with two ... by FloatArtifact on Friday September 20, 2024 @07:32PM (#41606371)
TrueNas needs to embody best practice for application backup and restore even though it runs ZFS.

As a side note, it's pretty interesting TrueNas is heavily designed around the ZFS paradigm. Most people think of applications and time stamps to restore not data pools and the snapshot paradigm accompanying ZFS.

With the right layer of abstraction on top of snapshots one could have the cake you need it to as it is difficult for beginners to grasp ZFS.

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