Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by some_random on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:30PM (#41569454)

I'm not at all convinced that's the case, unless it comes out that the targeting was extremely broad (like if Israel was just putting bombs in every pager going into Lebanon rather than targeting a specific shipment going to Hezbollah) I don't think there's really any new risk for other countries.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by rabidonrails on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:49PM (#41569715)

I'd disagree - this seems highly targeted. There aren't that many people with pagers but pagers were a specific way for Hezbollah to speak to operatives.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by occamsrazorwit on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @02:04PM (#41570715)

The news reports are saying a lot of explosions happened at hospitals. Considering that pagers are still in common use by Western doctors, I'm wondering if they considered hospital staff to be acceptable casualties.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by LegitShady on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @09:41PM (#41574863)

these weren't random pagers. They intercepted a shipment of thousands of pagers for hezbollah and rigged them with explosives, and set them off likely using hezbollah's own command and control network.

Random doctors in the hospital won't have these.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/pagers-drones-how-...

In July reuters was telling us how hezbollah was using pagers to defeat israel. Israel was smarter than them.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by Terr_ on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @07:30PM (#41586755)

> Random doctors in the hospital won't have these.

To put a slightly finer point on it: Even an uninvolved doctor somehow came to own a booby-trapped pager, they wouldn't be carrying it around every day unless it was configured to listen to the hospital's broadcast network of real medical messages, as opposed to leaving it tuned to Hezbollah High Command or whatever.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by desert_rue on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:08PM (#41569971)

Yeah, this is likely government backed, so targeting is most likely.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by le-mark on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @08:56PM (#41574555)

They had total control of the pagers, sigint and social graph, command and control hierarchy. They knew exactly who was who.

Question is how did Hamas slip by this same highly skilled org?

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by mkoubaa on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:58PM (#41575313)

Slip by? Hamas was funded and propped up by this highly skilled org in order to deligitimize the peace process.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by easyThrowaway on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @04:29AM (#41577254)

They probably run their numbers and reasoned that more than 75% or something of pagers from a specific batch were used by hezbollah or subjects close to them and decided that it was an acceptable casualty ratio.

"You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs" approach applied to armed conflicts.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by petertodd on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @06:03AM (#41577839)

There are tens of thousands of Hezbollah members. If anything, the attack was on a much smaller scale than it could have been. Unfortunately for Israel, not every Hezbollah member had a new pager.

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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by adonese on Thursday September 19, 2024 @09:41AM (#41591735)

As if Israil ever cared about civil vs combatants.

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