Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by redslazer on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:17PM
(#41559500)
Iceland the country won its trademark case agains Iceland the supermarket chain so there is probably something to it.
EUIPO "[Iceland Supermarket] cannot reasonably trademark the name of a country that has been around since the 9th century".
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by falcor84 on Monday September 16, 2024 @04:47PM
(#41560692)
I didn't know that was decided, and was just catching up on it now. This was a fun read:
> Mr Walker and other high-level executives from Iceland (the supermarket), took an emergency delegation to Iceland (the country), where they were met with a cold shoulder.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-13/iceland-country-secur...
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by verandaguy on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:47PM
(#41559892)
"Don't anthropomorphise the lawnmower[0]"
— Brian Cantrill on Larry Ellison, USENIX 2011
[0] https://youtu.be/-zRN7XLCRhc?feature=shared&t=2115It wasn't really a java implementation - they used the APIs, but broke compatibility.
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by falcor84 on Monday September 16, 2024 @04:40PM
(#41560612)
Oh, I wasn't aware of that - what did they change?
The ability to launch a jar?
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by kragen on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @07:18AM
(#41566472)
to me this sounds like a claim that gcc on linux isn't really a c compiler because linux can't run a .com file compiled with turbo c for ms-dos
Geez, not this shit again. (One of the many ways you could tell Oracle was doomed in trying to find and convincingly argue a tenable position against Google: half the people half the time argued that Google should be sued for implementing Java, and the other half the time argued that they should be sued for not implementing Java.)
If you can't run jars, it's not a java implementation.
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by nineteen999 on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @05:28AM
(#41565933)
You mean zip files with a jar extension?
Yes the external format of a jar file is a zip - but there is also a specification for the internal structure and file formats, as well as information like the minimum java version required to execute (and all sorts of other crap, I can't really say since I haven't actually looked - these are just some sane enough minimums).
But anyway, no need to be snide.
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by pimlottc on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:46PM
(#41559886)
Most /populous/ island is what I presume you mean.
yes, thank you, that was a stupid mistake on my part!
Re:Oracle, it's time to free JavaScript
by elzbardico on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:01PM
(#41559337)
“It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity! Or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop!... ever... until you are dead!”
as agumonkey implicitly points out in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41559110, though, 'java' is the name of the world's most popular island. i wonder if the indonesian government could be persuaded to support the trademark revocation