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Re:The Disunity of Consciousness in Everyday Experience by soulofmischief on Sunday September 15, 2024 @12:19PM (#41548370)
Less abstractly and more concretely: What do they point to? What are you claiming is the unifying deep truth beneath the surface of all religious texts? What heuristic is used to differentiate a text as religious versus the babblings of a schizophrenic?

I was raised Catholic, by a deacon, and have a deep understanding of Judeo-Christian religions, and have studied to a lesser extent several world religions. What am I missing?

Re:The Disunity of Consciousness in Everyday Experience by kukkeliskuu on Sunday September 15, 2024 @01:59PM (#41549115)
I am just a student of these things myself so take everything I say with a grain of salt. But based on your question and my own experience, it seems that you are approaching religion in the same way I was doing -- intellectually.

That is natural, but the problem is that our intellect is quite limited. You would like to have a description of "the unifying deep truth". But even very simple experience, like how strawberry tastes like, cannot be transmitted by words and comprehended by the intellect. How could we transmit something vastly more complex even if we knew it -- and I am not claiming I do.

So I would say what you are missing is the direct experience of something higher. Seek and you will find.

Re:The Disunity of Consciousness in Everyday Experience by hwhwhwhhwhwh on Sunday September 15, 2024 @12:59PM (#41548648)
This is a good video which explains this. Love to hear what you understood and if you disagree your reasoning behind it.

https://youtu.be/hw47wwOUjuY?si=dXFG_fYOBqJURPcQ

Re:The Disunity of Consciousness in Everyday Experience by hwhwhwhhwhwh on Sunday September 15, 2024 @03:37PM (#41549736)
Also in schizophrenia you see/hear things that are not seen by others in material world.

Spirituality does not contradict with what others experience in material world.

You just start identifying more with consciousness and less with the body. That's the shift.

And if you also think about it scientifically it makes sense.

You are consciousness experiencing the world.

Not the body experiencing consciousness.

You are consciousness

Not the body.

The body ages. The cells changes. You remains. The consciousness sees the body.