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Re:How America's universities became debt factories by IG_Semmelweiss on Saturday September 14, 2024 @05:39PM (#41543201)
>>> 1) move most careers...out of the country....to the benefit of shareholders.

You've hidden very carefully the causality in this sentence. Who moved them? Why? Its perhaps implied that since shareholders benefited, that they did it. Yet a careful examination reveals quickly the elephant in the room in that thesis: why did outsourcing now, and not before, if the benefit to shareholders has always been there? why did this happen mostly in the US, and not other countries?

Of course, the reality is far more complex and reveals that the road for manufacture hollowing in the US was a road paved with good intentions. History is there for anyone who wants to read it.

Re:How America's universities became debt factories by bobthepanda on Saturday September 14, 2024 @05:45PM (#41543260)
There is outsourcing in places like the EU but it looks different and takes place within it, because the wealth disparities between EU countries are so much greater and US GDP per capita is so high. The state with lowest GDP per capita, Mississippi, is on par with Belgium.
Re:How America's universities became debt factories by doctorwho42 on Sunday September 15, 2024 @02:24AM (#41545625)
Well one of the reasons for outsourcing was the idea that becoming a service economy would improve our country and it's citizens... Unfortunately that turned out bust.
Re:How America's universities became debt factories by chii on Sunday September 15, 2024 @03:25AM (#41545857)
many citizens' lives were improved. The cheap material consumption and availability is an improvement. It's just that the benefit is so widely available that people stopped thinking of it as a benefit.

It used to be that owning a TV or radio was an expense you planned for and it had to last.

Of course there are those who were hurt from the move from blue collar manufacturing, but overall, the aggregated benefit is higher than the losses from those who were laid off. And it's not as if new industries did not spring up.

Re:How America's universities became debt factories by nobodyandproud on Sunday September 15, 2024 @10:36AM (#41547737)
> It used to be that owning a TV or radio was an expense you planned for and it had to last.

Thereby replacing one problem with another. The hope was that quality would be minimally impacted and repairs would be affordable. Instead, businesses are incentivized to quick-to -obsolesce products.

Disastrous garbage problems that impact everyone, even the wealthiest, though they are blissfully unaware.

> Of course there are those who were hurt from the move from blue collar manufacturing, but overall, the aggregated benefit is higher than the losses from those who were laid off. And it's not as if new industries did not spring up.

Trump’s rise in 2016 shows that this narrative is woefully inadequate.