Re:Notes on OpenAI's new o1 chain-of-thought models
by maeil on Friday September 13, 2024 @02:52AM
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Nondeterminism provides an excuse for errors, determinism doesn't.
Nondeterminism scores worse with human raters, because it makes output sound even more robotic and less human.
Re:Notes on OpenAI's new o1 chain-of-thought models
by coffeebeqn on Friday September 13, 2024 @01:13AM
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Would picking deterministically help through? Then in some cases it’s always 100% wrong
Re:Notes on OpenAI's new o1 chain-of-thought models
by jaredsohn on Friday September 13, 2024 @03:29AM
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Yes, it is better if for example using it via an API to classify. Deterministic behavior makes it a lot easier to debug the prompt.
Re:Notes on OpenAI's new o1 chain-of-thought models
by roywiggins on Friday September 13, 2024 @09:58AM
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Determinism only helps if you always ask the question with exactly the same words. There's no guarantee a slightly rephrased version will give the same answer, so a certain amount of unpredictability is unavoidable anyway. With a deterministic LLM you might find one phrasing that always gets it right and a dozen basically indistinguishable ones that always get it wrong.
I don't know why openAi won't allow determinism but it doesn't, even with temperature set to zero