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Re:New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a st... by dgfitz on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @06:47PM (#41515941)
> … her campaign successfully shifted the leftmost acceptable economic policies to be to the right of the electorate.

Huh. If that were true she would have won. So it can’t be true. Unless your claim is “the right was too far right” in which case your “right-of-the-electorate” cannot be mathematically true.

Were you trying to make a different point? The current one doesn’t hold water.

Re:New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a st... by mtalantikite on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @11:51PM (#41517430)
> If that were true she would have won.

Not who you're discussing with, but Hillary did win the popular vote by about 3 million votes.

Re:New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a st... by dgfitz on Thursday September 12, 2024 @12:02AM (#41517481)
Fair point.
Re:New York Times tech workers union votes to authorize a st... by sudosysgen on Friday September 13, 2024 @08:47AM (#41530730)
70% of people who voted for Hillary Clinton said that they voted against Trump, not for her. And people don't vote for whatever candidate is closer to them on the left-right spectrum, they care about personality, about how the candidate makes them feel. In those terms Trump was extremely polarizing, many people whose policies were closer to Trump than Clinton voted for Clinton because Trump was, as a person, unacceptable.

Besides, there are people who just don't vote if your platform or personality is not engaging. That was a big phenomenon with Clinton and is generally what decided whether or not Democrats win: the higher the turnout, the higher their chances. If a Democrat runs to the right, they lose turnout from leftwing voters who stay home, they don't (just) win votes from the center.

Also, Clinton did win the popular vote, despite all of this.