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Re:Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio by falcor84 on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @10:23AM (#41511684)
There has never been and never will be a discussion that is fully accurate; this stems from how discussions work.
Re:Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio by wg0 on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @03:13PM (#41514457)
Not true. If the accuracy of human debate had this much room of error all the time when two subject matter experts are talking, we would not have the progress of civilisation that we have now.

Room for error for sure is but at the very frontier of the knowledge where really no one knows what is what. There, yes people can be and have been blatantly wrong.

Re:Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio by falcor84 on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @04:45PM (#41515195)
First off, why have you moved the goal-posts, expecting LLMs to be not just at human level, but at subject matter expert level?

And second, I would appreciate recommendations of good debates where both sides have a lot to offer and don't fall into errors; we do need more of those.

Re:Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio by wg0 on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @07:03PM (#41516053)
Because that's basic assumption. I'd want a discussion about academic papers from subject matter experts otherwise reading it aloud alone is not of any value let alone commentary on it with no understanding of it whatsoever.
Re:Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio by falcor84 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @03:25AM (#41518356)
There's a spectrum of value here. I don't think we're at the SME level yet, but I'd say we are at least at the level of presentation you'd get at an undergrad seminar module - and I already see significant value here.
Re:Google Illuminate: Books and papers turned into audio by wg0 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @11:12AM (#41521853)
True. It is not totally useless. There's a lot of utility.