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Re:Six Ideas for Poland by alephnerd on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @12:36PM (#41502691)
And it's sentiments like these that give me a pause about investing in Poland.

There's no guarantee that voters like this guy won't vote in a PiS or a PiS-style populist due to nativist sentiment as well as anger at non-redistributive development (Warsaw/Lodz/Gdansk/Wclow vs everyone else), and as a result the Polish govt ends up having to give us additional tax breaks and holidays to minimize our concerns (great for us, not as great for Poles).

Re:Six Ideas for Poland by some_random on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @12:40PM (#41502748)
I hate to say it, but after this summer's elections in France and Germany I really don't think this is a risk unique to any EU country. In fact I would put greater risk on other countries because they're starting out wealthier, people are a lot more open to immigration and centrist/liberal parties when they're getting 10% more money year over year and their children have a brighter and brighter future.
Re:Six Ideas for Poland by alephnerd on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @12:42PM (#41502775)
> I really don't think this is a risk unique to any EU country

True! But I'm fine dealing with populist headaches in a $4T and $2.7T economy instead of a $690B economy.

Re:Six Ideas for Poland by some_random on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @12:52PM (#41502891)
Depends on who you are, I'm going to care about which one I'm investing in which is the context I was looking at this from
Re:Six Ideas for Poland by unethical_ban on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @02:18PM (#41503882)
Ignoring legitimate concerns about mass unfiltered migration will only propel the far right into power.
Re:Six Ideas for Poland by talldatethrow on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @02:14AM (#41508502)
It's not worth taking your investment money if it means destroying one of that last non destroyed European countries.

I moved to the US in 89.

I've watched the US basically be destroyed by policies that basically are even worse over in Europe.

Up until recently, Poland was still a shinning beacon of hope. It's getting worse but hopefully the eastern European rationality kicks in and they wake up before it's too late.

The lefts ideas have made enough places pretty terrible. They don't need to do it to ONE MORE place.

Re:Six Ideas for Poland by alephnerd on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @11:14AM (#41512144)
> The lefts ideas have made enough places pretty terrible. They don't need to do it to ONE MORE place.

It's not a left or a right issue - when I want to start a foreign office, I often need to bring in talent from my other offices.

If it's a pain to get short term work visas for my employees (India, China) or if there are fears of safety and xenophobia (Israel, India), my employees don't feel like helping start those on-site offices.

If my employees don't want to visit those countries, we may as well choose one of the several other CEE states like Czechia or Romania.

Already Romania has almost caught up to Poland in GDP per Capita and social indicators despite being much poorer barely a decade ago.

> It's not worth taking your investment money if it means destroying one of that last non destroyed European countries.

Be careful what you wish for.

Hungarian voters thought the same way 10 years ago, and that lead to capital outflows to Poland and Romania.

Almost every large private sector Polish employer by revenue is owned by a foreign MNC. 40% of the Polish economy is owned by us "foreign investors".

We're fine moving that money away, and that did start towards the end of the Duda administration due to political instability, with a lot of capital outflows to Romania which rolled out the red carpet for us.

Re:Six Ideas for Poland by talldatethrow on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @02:29PM (#41514007)
I'd rather be poorer than deal with everything the west is throwing on everyone. A poorer Poland is still a better Poland than a wealthier not so Poland anymore.

And if you want to start a Polish office, hire Polish people. Don't tell me you need Indians and Chinese people. If you can't do it with Polish people because we're too dumb or lazy or uneducated for your business, oh well. Don't just import people. Most poles don't want them.

However bad you think right wing Polish people are, it's probably worse when you're not in the room. So please consider than in your next round of investment.