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Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by scarface_74 on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:26PM (#41496891)
You realize Telegram is less secure than iMessage?
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by eric_h on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:43PM (#41496970)
Significantly less secure at that. I imagine GP has iMessage disabled on their computer because other people use their computer, and they don't want iMessages/SMS going anywhere other than their phone.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by mldbk on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @01:16AM (#41497381)
Given the fact that the most of zero click 0-day exploits were targeting iMessage, I'd disagree with your statement.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by scarface_74 on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @01:29AM (#41497436)
Well, Telegram is by definition not as a secure as iMessage. Telegram messages are by default not encrypted on the server. Even when it is encrypted on the server, telegram has the keys and can decrypt it.

They have the decryption keys

https://telegram.org/faq#:~:text=To%20protect%20the%20data%2....

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by eitland on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @01:44AM (#41497505)
You rebutted something GP didn't write.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by bee_rider on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @09:07AM (#41500418)
This is true (one is talking about zero-click zero days, the other is talking about “privacy,” not sure if they mean privacy against Facebook or privacy against other users of their device).

But the comment that kicked off the thread was the one about privacy.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by bcg361 on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @07:57PM (#41506870)
Telegram isn't as private as iMessage, but that doesn't mean it's not as secure. Security-wise, exploiting iMessage is easier than exploiting telegram, since iMessages has some special privileged access. Security doesn't mean privacy.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by scarface_74 on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @07:45PM (#41516298)
The issue with parsing images in a process was fixed awhile back. If you are really paranoid, you can put your iPhone in “lockdown mode”.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/105120

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by saagarjha on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @04:22AM (#41498474)
Most car crashes also happen near your house.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by darthrupert on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @07:22AM (#41499642)
That's because telegram has 3000-day exploits.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by albedoa on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @08:50AM (#41500250)
The stats understander is logged on and strapped in.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by iknowstuff on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @11:08AM (#41501547)
I think they mostly targeted font/image/url parsing which are used across the OS. iMessage was somewhat privileged at some point in the back but was compartmentalized later and media processing was the only escape, but that’s out of process now too I believe.