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Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by a2128 on Monday September 09, 2024 @09:08PM (#41496159)
> OR at least you should be required to prominently mark the devices as "dependent on the manufacturer's servers"

Right next to the prominent label about causing cancer in the state of California, presumably.

I feel a notice wouldn't work here because the average consumer wouldn't understand the implications of depending on the manufacturer's servers or what it even means, plus every smart doorbell or whatever would just include it so it's not like it'd affect any consumer's choice

Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by benoau on Monday September 09, 2024 @10:07PM (#41496487)
Love it.

This product may be revoked at any time.

This product incurs $30 billion in annual fees.

This product sells your usage data.

Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by ddingus on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:11PM (#41496822)
Yeah.

The features present at time of purchase may be changed, downgraded, or removed at any time.

Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by salawat on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @09:40AM (#41500661)
With no obligation from the manufacturer to inform you of changes, and even if one exists in law, whaddya tonna do about it? We're doing the take it or leave it approach.
Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by ddingus on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @12:49PM (#41502870)
Yep. Major turn off. I do not buy, unless forced.

Just have no need for the hassles.

Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by matheusmoreira on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @01:41PM (#41503443)
Whenever I come across a thing that contains a "terms of service" or "license agreement", I refuse to read it and make the assumption it says the following things:

> you own nothing

> the company owns everything

> you have no rights

> you promise not to try and exercise any right you think you have

> just in case you ever get it in your silly little head that you do have any rights whatsoever, you agree to binding arbitration with the firm we pay

> you cannot do anything the company doesn't like

> the company can do literally anything it wants whether you like it or not

> the company is not responsible for anything ever

> the company makes absolutely no guarantees about anything

> but you agree to indemnify us in all possible circumstances

Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by ddingus on Friday September 13, 2024 @11:50PM (#41537341)
That, sadly, is an entirely reasonable take on all this.
Re:FTC Pushed to Crack Down on Companies That Ruin Hardware ... by consteval on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @01:16PM (#41503145)
Yeah these labeling requirements only work if you operate under the assumption companies will be truthful. But if they're truthful, we wouldn't require labels in the first place, they'd just do them. So it's dead in the water.